[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-25 Thread Lum Gim Fong
i think rbw says retreat every couple years anyway. So i dont think missing the first two will matter much. I heavily Boshielded my Bleriot and Rambouillet when I got them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-25 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Although I've Framesavered or Boeshielded a frameset or two in my time, I'm of a similar opinion. I just don't think it matters much. I have bikes from the 60s, 70s, and 80s, not a one a garage queen, not a one frame saved, and they will all likely be going fine when I'm gone. Rust never

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-24 Thread Kainalu V.
Thanks for the clarification Garth! Sorry to all for spreading falsehoods around these parts, having a can of each at home there's no excuse for my never having done a side by side comparison, I'm just glad I've never resorted to using Weigle's on my chain. -Kai BKNY -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-24 Thread Garth
Weigle's, at least the can I bought long ago, is very different from Boeshield. Weigle's dries very very sticky/tacky, so much so that on my Bomba with a bead blasted seatpost became difficult to remove or even move around. I had to use some thin lube that had mineral spirits in it to sort of

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-24 Thread Kainalu V.
And another potential wrench- I heard a rumor that Weigle's framesaver is rebranded boeshield. Since boeshield leaves a nice layer of waxy goop in it's wake I never questioned the rumor or it's effectiveness as a framesaver. That said, I still opt for Weigle's when it's a available option. -Kai

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-24 Thread Arthur Mayfield
Just to throw another wrench into this discussion, I've gotten two frames from Riv. The first was a Sam in 2013. They told me at the time that the tubes had been sprayed with Boeshield T-9, not Frame Saver (which is a specific product, not a generic term). The second frame was a Frank Jones

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-24 Thread Jeffrey Arita
Hi Rod, Back in 2011 my wife and I took delivery of two complete Riv builds: Betty Foy for her and AHH for me. Both builds were professionally assembled, adjusted and tested. Not sure about the framesaver - probably not but in reality unless one lives in a nasty climate the frames should

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-24 Thread Garth
On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 8:38:57 AM UTC-4, Jock Dewey wrote: > Hey, RustBOBS: > > > Others will likely chime in here to the contrary, but when I worked for > Richard Schwinn at Waterford, he told me he had NEVER seen a steel frame rust > from the inside out.  > > > Lots of data points

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-24 Thread Jock Dewey
Hey, RustBOBS: Others will likely chime in here to the contrary, but when I worked for Richard Schwinn at Waterford, he told me he had NEVER seen a steel frame rust from the inside out. Lots of data points there, if nothing else. BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-24 Thread Bill Schairer
I purchased a custom steel frame in 1978, built it up, tore it down and built it back up numerous times since, still ride it and never frame saver’d it. The bike has been commuted on and toured on rain and shine. It has lived in humid climates and dry. I ask, has anyone ever seen a

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-24 Thread Garth
More ice cream ! Yes ! !  Ice cream ..., the "new" frame/life saver  "man cannot live on bread alone there must be ice cream and lots of it !" On Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 7:02:55 AM UTC-4, Kainalu V. wrote: > "Open it up " > And fill it with framesaver! > I want those tubes

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-24 Thread Kainalu V.
"Open it up " And fill it with framesaver! I want those tubes to look like my plaque filled arteries!! If there's no room for rust there must not be rust!!! I like ice cream Kittens! -Kai -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-24 Thread Garth
Sheeesh yes they are frame savered. no they are not. Yes they are, no they're not. Yes ... No . Oh Yes they are . oh no they are not ! Ahahahahahah! It's like watching a pinball machine  Well What's in the Box ? Open it up  -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-23 Thread Christopher Murray
It does not say “assembled by us” but “When you buy an assembled bike from us, we’ve already sprayed it.” An assembled bike is an assembled bike whether the assembly was done in Taiwan or California. That said, I was always under the impression that the completes were not sprayed. A call to

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-23 Thread Joe Bernard
Dave, that's my understanding. Taiwan completes are not "assembled by us/Riv", so I don't think they're framesavered. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-23 Thread Dave Small
I've bought several frames from Riv but only one complete bike---a Sam from their 2016 batch. From what I've read or been told, the Sam was assembled in Taiwan, shipped to the US where Riv unpacked it, made sure everything was put together correctly and tweaked what needed to be tweaked,

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-22 Thread Rod Holland
Thanks, all, for sharing your experience with this. Most all the fittings I had occasion to expose were well-prepared (grease, anti-seize, loctite, or light oil). There were one or two exceptions, but they were easy to recognize and deal with, and tended to be trivial anyway (e.g., fender

[RBW] Re: Riv complete: appropriate mechanical expectations?

2018-05-21 Thread phil k
They don't frame save their complete bikes or their frames, but I believe everything is looked over and tuned by the good folks at Rivendell. On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 11:04:03 AM UTC-4, Rod Holland wrote: > > I've just taken delivery of a Clem-L complete, a gift for my girlfriend. > As I get