[RBW] Re: Rivs & Mac's

2009-01-17 Thread JoelMatthews
John: Thanks for the heads up. Did not think of that at all. I will make some calls. On Jan 17, 9:49 pm, "John Speare" wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:51 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > >  I could  give my All-Rounder to a homeless guy but it wouldn't really > > work any > > > better for hi

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2009-01-17 Thread John Speare
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:51 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > I could give my All-Rounder to a homeless guy but it wouldn't really > work any > > better for him than giving him an inexpensive, used-but-serviceable > > mountain bike. > > That is exactly the problem I am running into with my redunda

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2009-01-16 Thread JoelMatthews
Agreed. Of course that brings me full circle to my reluctance to go through the headache of selling per my post yesterday. Along with the basic hassles inherent in any e-bay auction, the bikes themselves present challenges. We here at Riv are fairly spoiled. Grant and his many happy customers

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2009-01-16 Thread Bill Connell
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:51 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: > >> I could give my All-Rounder to a homeless guy but it wouldn't really work >> any >> better for him than giving him an inexpensive, used-but-serviceable >> mountain bike. > > That is exactly the problem I am running into with my redundan

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2009-01-16 Thread JoelMatthews
> I could give my All-Rounder to a homeless guy but it wouldn't really work > any > better for him than giving him an inexpensive, used-but-serviceable > mountain bike. That is exactly the problem I am running into with my redundant touring bike. I have found many programs looking for bike do

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2009-01-16 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jan 16, 2009, at 5:25 AM, EricP wrote: > And to address the consumption issue - yes, there are many a time I > feel guilty about having all this stuff sitting around. It's one > reason my wife and I decided to live in a small condo rather than a > house. Trying to minimize our "footprint" s

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2009-01-16 Thread EricP
On Jan 15, 8:17�pm, "J. Burkhalter" wrote: > We have 3 Rivs, 2 iPods, and 1 double bass. �Okay, there is an out-of- > tune piano and banjo in the basement, but not a single fountain pen in > the house (but I might have to look into that ;-). �I've contemplated > switching to Mac for years, and

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2009-01-15 Thread Tom Lettington
When I posted my Mac/PC response (one iMac, one WinXP PC, one WinXP PC laptop, and two iPods) to this thread, I didn't mention my main ride is my one Riv - a Bleriot - I built it and I love it. Of course I also have hanging in my garage (among other unmentionables) a WhizWheelz recumbent Ter

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2009-01-15 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/15/09 6:45 PM, David Faller at dfal...@charter.net wrote: > Just remember, Cyclofiend lit the fuse on this thread! Yes. I did start the thread. It always catches my attention when a RBW thread pops up on the iBob list. I do hate to let them have all the fun. Curious how these things mov

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2009-01-15 Thread Doug Peterson
m: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Bronson Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 7:37 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivs & Mac's Teach a poor kid to ride a bike, maybe some day he'll own a Rivendell.

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2009-01-15 Thread Doug Peterson
rsday, January 15, 2009 6:42 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivs & Mac's At least three sigma out in either direction! - Original Message - From: Doug Peterson <mailto:dougpn...@cox.net> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thurs

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2009-01-15 Thread Jim Bronson
Teach a poor kid to ride a bike, maybe some day he'll own a Rivendell. On 1/15/09, Tim McNamara wrote: > > > On Jan 15, 2009, at 4:13 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: >> On Jan 15, 8:52 am, Tim McNamara wrote: >>> On Jan 15, 2009, at 8:26 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: >>> Suddenly I feel a bit embarrassed by

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2009-01-15 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jan 15, 2009, at 4:13 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > On Jan 15, 8:52 am, Tim McNamara wrote: >> On Jan 15, 2009, at 8:26 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: >> Suddenly I feel a bit embarrassed by conspicuous over-consumption. >> What the heck do I need all this stuff for? Three billion people on >> the plan

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2009-01-15 Thread periwinklekog
> To extend the questions... how many ride Rivendells and also play   > music of some sort (not necessarily at the same time)? Between me and my partner we have two Rivs and a BStone, an iMac and a MacBookPro, four guitars, a piano, a marching snare drum, and way too many drum sticks and practice

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2009-01-15 Thread David Faller
bject: [RBW] Re: Rivs & Mac's Why not combine these two? I've often wondered how many Riv riders are also woodworkers, http://www.prabhamohan.com/blog/environment/files/0f99ddd1ff510c4d75986ed4a7f581e6-11.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~

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2009-01-15 Thread David Faller
At least three sigma out in either direction! - Original Message - From: Doug Peterson To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:06 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivs & Mac's I expected this to be an eclectic group when I joined but I had

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2009-01-15 Thread Bruce
Why not combine these two? I've often wondered how many Riv riders are also woodworkers, http://www.prabhamohan.com/blog/environment/files/0f99ddd1ff510c4d75986ed4a7f581e6-11.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subsc

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2009-01-15 Thread J. Burkhalter
We have 3 Rivs, 2 iPods, and 1 double bass. Okay, there is an out-of- tune piano and banjo in the basement, but not a single fountain pen in the house (but I might have to look into that ;-). I've contemplated switching to Mac for years, and might actually make the leap when I change careers nex

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2009-01-15 Thread Ray Shine
Well, as a group we're not quite that far gone.  I for one didn't even realize they still make fountain pens!?!  And then someone wrote a repair manual for them to boot?!?  Wow!  Go figure that! RS --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Doug Peterson wrote: From: Doug Peterson Subject: [RBW] Re: Ri

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2009-01-15 Thread Doug Peterson
_ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 6:38 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivs & Mac's Ah yes Frank Dubiel. Wrote the basic pen repair handbo

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2009-01-15 Thread JoelMatthews
> Suddenly I feel a bit embarrassed by conspicuous over-consumption. > What the heck do I need all this stuff for? Three billion people on > the planet have no guitars, bicycles or fountain pens- or barely a > place to live out of the weather or enough food. About half of the > Earth's populatio

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2009-01-15 Thread Rick
Two macs (imac, macbook pro), three ipods. I do have bootcamp on the laptop and run windows when necessary to fiddle w/ the corel wordperfect, but much prefer the macs to my office's microsoft world. Particularly fond of the Logic (music processing) software on the mac. One Riv, or soon to be; I

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2009-01-15 Thread Horace
I could almost bring this on topic with a quote from a 2005 interviewwith Steve Jobs: * **So then finally, what is the last piece of technology that he acquired - not made by Apple - that really delighted him?

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2009-01-15 Thread Curtis Schmitt
Haven't shot the QB yet, but here's the rest: Mooney: http://picasaweb.google.com/curtisrschmitt/PeterMooney6091993#5290265763497231250 EAI BK: http://picasaweb.google.com/curtisrschmitt/EAIBareKnuckleTrackBike#5242619217306643682 Kog G 58: http://picasaweb.google.com/curtisrschmitt/KogswellMod

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2009-01-15 Thread Lisa -S.H.
> > > To extend the questions... how many ride Rivendells and also play > music of some sort (not necessarily at the same time)? We have 3 rivs. I play banjo and mountain dulcimer, he plays fiddle. Lisa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you

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2009-01-15 Thread Bill Connell
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: > > On Jan 15, 2009, at 8:26 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: > >> To extend the questions... how many ride Rivendells and also play >> music of some sort (not necessarily at the same time)? > > D'oh... I extended the question but didn't answer it. She

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2009-01-15 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jan 15, 2009, at 8:26 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: > To extend the questions... how many ride Rivendells and also play > music of some sort (not necessarily at the same time)? D'oh... I extended the question but didn't answer it. Sheesh. I play guitar (and we have even more guitars than bikes

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2009-01-15 Thread Bruce
Ah yes Frank Dubiel. Wrote the basic pen repair handbook that still gets wide circulation. Quite a crusty guy. Met him a time or two at the shows. Violin/viola here, but as you note, not while astride a riv. From: Tim McNamara I've been a fountain pen user f

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2009-01-15 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jan 15, 2009, at 3:56 AM, Bruce wrote: > Hi, I'm a moderator of a group called founatinpencollecting at > yahoogroups dot com and we'd like to have you as a member. (That's > for real) I count about 200 fountain pens in my collection, but I > spend more time on the Rivs than the pens.

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2009-01-15 Thread EricP
One Riv. Not sure if our iTouch and iPod rate as Mac's or not. An no fountain pens (although my wife has one). However, too many acoustic guitars, (and a couple of electrics), a banjo-guitar hybrid, a banjo, a fiddle and a couple of ukes. I'm more amazed at the number of musicians who are aware

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2009-01-15 Thread Bruce
oth vintage and modern fountain pens and inks.) I wonder how many share a love of wet ink writing and Rivendell riding? From: "bpus...@aol.com" To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 11:13:21 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv

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2009-01-14 Thread BPustow
Sorry, only 3 Rivs (Ram, Hilsen, Quickbeam), 1 PC, BUT 9 fountain pens. I think Grant would be proud. I'm surprised he hasn't offered a steel version. Bill In a message dated 1/14/2009 11:18:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cyclotour...@gmail.com writes: This is nuts!. . . 6 Rivs (+

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2009-01-14 Thread David Estes
for the win! On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Elton Pope-Lance wrote: > > > This is nuts!. . . > > 6 Rivs (+ 1 on order) > 2 Macs > 1 Lo Prinzi > > Feels like the right ratio to me. . . > > -Elton P-L > > > > > Two Rivs (one Quickbeam for me, one Ram for my wife); three Macs (if > > you count the

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2009-01-14 Thread Bruce
nuary 14, 2009 7:33:15 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivs & Mac's 1 AHH and two macs (imac and Macbook) Shawn --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to t

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2009-01-14 Thread shawn adkins
1 AHH and two macs (imac and Macbook) Shawn --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Elton Pope-Lance wrote: From: Elton Pope-Lance Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivs & Mac's To: "RBW List" Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 7:49 PM This is nuts!. . . 6 Rivs (+ 1 on order) 2 Macs 1 Lo Prinzi Feels l

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2009-01-14 Thread Elton Pope-Lance
This is nuts!. . . 6 Rivs (+ 1 on order) 2 Macs 1 Lo Prinzi Feels like the right ratio to me. . . -Elton P-L > > Two Rivs (one Quickbeam for me, one Ram for my wife); three Macs (if > you count the ancient ibook); two Martin guitars (does that relate?). > > > > On Jan 14, 3:11 am, k5osx

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2009-01-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Curtis Schmitt wrote: > > > Bicycles: All fixed gears: a Riv QB 60, Kogswell G 58, Peter Mooney 57 > single speed (running fixed), EAI BareKnuckle 54 and a Soma Rush 56. Good man! Would you care to post photos? Thanks. Patrick "like fixed gears myself" Moore -

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2009-01-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Curtis Schmitt wrote: > > > Bicycles: All fixed gears: a Riv QB 60, Kogswell G 58, Peter Mooney 57 > single speed (running fixed), EAI BareKnuckle 54 and a Soma Rush 56. I > do my bicycle camping trips and hardware store runs with the G58, my > long, light rides wi

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2009-01-14 Thread Curtis Schmitt
Computers: I've been a Mac user since 1990. I have a MacBook Pro w/ hi-res 17" glossy display and a Mac Pro at home, and a Mac Pro at the office, plus an iPhone 3G. I'm one of a very small group of architects using VectorWorks on the Mac. Most are forced to use a PC because they're stuck in the Au

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2009-01-14 Thread Mike
I have two Macs (eMac and iBook) and two Rivendells (Rambouillet and AHH). And I'll maybe add a Sam Hillborne to the mix before I purchase a new Mac. Hell, I'd be fine with just an iPhone. Hmmm. And I have one wife, three cats, no kids and no car. --~--~-~--~~~---~

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2009-01-14 Thread Harry
Well this brings to light the fact I need to show some self control. I've equal amounts of each and it's more than 3. On Jan 13, 7:14 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > This little thread popped up over on iBob, but thought it might be fun here, > too. > > How many Riv owners are Mac-owners? > > Conjured u

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2009-01-14 Thread Bill Connell
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > > on 1/14/09 7:10 AM, Bill Connell at bconn...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> It's interesting to think of computers and bikes in the sense of >> openness. I prefer the Mac by far, but i recognize that there are >> aspects of it that are strictly inac

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2009-01-14 Thread CycloFiend
on 1/14/09 7:10 AM, Bill Connell at bconn...@gmail.com wrote: > I've had Mac, FreeBSD, Linux and Solaris machines at home, and use > WinXP, Linux and Macs at work. The best thing about the Mac for me is > that you never *have* to mess with conf files, but you have the full > unix guts at your dis

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2009-01-14 Thread Eric Norris
Three Macs, two iPhones, and five iPods. Two Rivs (Quickbeam and Road Standard). --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Jan 13, 2009, at 7:14 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > > This little thread popped up over on iBob, but thought it might be > fun here, > too. > > H

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2009-01-14 Thread Tom Lettington
{Off topic, but fun thread} Adhering for 30 years (or so) exclusively to the Microsoft religion (after a few years of CP/M), I went for a new iMac and OS X with the eye popping 24" screen last year. I'm having difficulty weaning myself completely from the Windows World, so both machines are

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2009-01-14 Thread jaybmc...@gmail.com
Two Rivs (one Quickbeam for me, one Ram for my wife); three Macs (if you count the ancient ibook); two Martin guitars (does that relate?). On Jan 14, 3:11 am, k5osx wrote: > On Jan 13, 9:14 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > > > > > How many Riv owners are Mac-owners? > > 3 mac mini's, 1 mbp, one atlant

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2009-01-14 Thread k5osx
On Jan 13, 9:14 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > > How many Riv owners are Mac-owners? > 3 mac mini's, 1 mbp, one atlantis, and one callsign that shows my allegience. > - Jim > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net UNIX rules. robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You r

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2009-01-14 Thread Bill Connell
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Scott G. wrote: > > On Jan 14, 1:15 am, "David Estes" wrote: >> I miss my Apple ][e... > > Amen, much easier to operate than a WinXP or Mac OSX machine. > Remember computers were supposed to get easier to use?, > Instead we get Ma Bells Unix in drag running on a

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2009-01-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 06:18 -0800, Scott G. wrote: > > > On Jan 14, 1:15 am, "David Estes" wrote: > > I miss my Apple ][e... > > Amen, much easier to operate than a WinXP or Mac OSX machine. > Remember computers were supposed to get easier to use?, > Instead we get Ma Bells Unix in drag runnin

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2009-01-14 Thread JoelMatthews
I've been a Mac user since I went to college in the late '80s. One curious divergence: The new macs lack some of the quirky charm the old classic box had (although they can do far more). Rivs just keep getting better - and in the case of the Bombadil, quirky in a good way. On Jan 13, 9:14 pm, C

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2009-01-14 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Scott G. wrote: > > Amen, much easier to operate than a WinXP or Mac OSX machine. > Remember computers were supposed to get easier to use?, > Instead we get Ma Bells Unix in drag running on a box claiming to be a > Mac. > I have nightmares that in another 20 years

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2009-01-14 Thread Scott G.
On Jan 14, 1:15 am, "David Estes" wrote: > I miss my Apple ][e... Amen, much easier to operate than a WinXP or Mac OSX machine. Remember computers were supposed to get easier to use?, Instead we get Ma Bells Unix in drag running on a box claiming to be a Mac. I have nightmares that in another

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2009-01-14 Thread BobD
Hello my name's Bob...and I'm a PC. But since the purchase of my AHH and iPhone, I succumbed to the inexplicable, yet powerful allure of the Steve Jobs empire and bought a MacBook Pro. On Jan 13, 10:14 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > This little thread popped up over on iBob, but thought it might be fun

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2009-01-13 Thread David Estes
I miss my Apple ][e... On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Esteban wrote: > > Always worked on a Mac. Luckily, my employer will buy me one every 3 > years. I have 3 Riv; two used - but never bought a used computer. > > On Jan 13, 10:03 pm, "Jim Bronson" wrote: > > Oh yeah, I forgot about my ser

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2009-01-13 Thread Esteban
Always worked on a Mac. Luckily, my employer will buy me one every 3 years. I have 3 Riv; two used - but never bought a used computer. On Jan 13, 10:03 pm, "Jim Bronson" wrote: > Oh yeah, I forgot about my server.  I have a mini-ITX low power board > with an embedded Celeron proc running my fi

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2009-01-13 Thread Jim Bronson
Oh yeah, I forgot about my server. I have a mini-ITX low power board with an embedded Celeron proc running my file server. It is running the free os FreeNAS. http://www.freenas.org This is based on OpenBSD Unix. The server actually boots off of a 128MB USB stick, the entire FreeNAS OS is abou

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2009-01-13 Thread Ray Shine
Me? Three Riv's, four Mac's (counting my wife's home power book), including two at work that do not belong to me, just issued to me. Now, if only I can get them to issue me a couple of Riv's! --- On Tue, 1/13/09, CycloFiend wrote: From: CycloFiend Subject: [RBW] Rivs & Mac's To: "rbw group" D

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2009-01-13 Thread William Henderson
I work for Apple and just build my first Riv. wc. On Jan 13, 7:14 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > This little thread popped up over on iBob, but thought it might be fun here, > too. > > How many Riv owners are Mac-owners? > > Conjured up a quick survey here > -http://www.opinionpower.com/Surveys/2570

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2009-01-13 Thread Bill M.
Same here - two Rivs, no Mac for me. My wife has a Mac, but both kids and I use Windoze. I hada server running Linux for a while, too. On Jan 13, 8:39 pm, All Rounder 2000 wrote: > Survey seems to indicate an inverse relationship. :) > I was looking for a survey response to describe me: Multi

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2009-01-13 Thread All Rounder 2000
Survey seems to indicate an inverse relationship. :) I was looking for a survey response to describe me: Multiple Rivs, Zero Macs. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to t

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2009-01-13 Thread Jim Bronson
Never. I have my desktop tri-boot with XP, Vista and Ubuntu Linux, my laptop is dual booted with Vista and Ubuntu. My other desktop is running the Windows7 32bit beta, and my other laptop is running Xubuntu 8.10 only. Macs are too expensive and not suited to the PC hobbist. My laptop cost $500

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2009-01-13 Thread David Estes
Nice poll! I would own a Mac if I had to use my own $$$, but my employer gives me a Dell... what's a poor boy to do? On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Bill Connell wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM, CycloFiend > wrote: > > > > This little thread popped up over on iBob, but thought it m

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2009-01-13 Thread Bill Connell
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > > This little thread popped up over on iBob, but thought it might be fun here, > too. > > How many Riv owners are Mac-owners? > > Conjured up a quick survey here - > http://www.opinionpower.com/Surveys/257056185.html Funny - i jumped off the