Michael,
I currently own a 59 cm Roadeo and have owned a 59 cm Hilsen in the past. I
would say that on a whole the Roadeo is more responsive and quicker, but
that is probably more to do with the way I have-had the two bikes set up. I
replaced with the Hilsen with an Atlantis and I now feel like
One of the most misunderestimated factors contributing to bike performance is a
fast-sounding catalog description.
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Down the rabbit hole we go, talking about fast bikes, blergh. I think
there are just so many factors that go into one bike feeling fast over
another--tires, rider position, crank length, bb, spoke count, type of
rims, level of components, rider abilty, wind resistance, terrain, etc. I
like to
I am going to be able to answer this in 4 months or so, that is about when
my Roadeo will be coming in. I have been using the Sam as a go fast bike
for club rides, as it is my only bike so I had to make due. The Roadeo will
be my fast bike once I get it, so I will be able to compare the two on
I think the simplest way I can put my topic question is: Why does Grant
describe it as their bike for fast rides? I am just interested in what it
is about this frame, and what they designed into the frame, to make it for
that intended purpose. It is not mentioned in their description on
Michael wrote
The description on the site led me to believe it is the fastest bike they
make... However, it doesn't say what makes it that way
OK, I'm still kind of guessing what it is you are after, so I'll ask and
answer my own questions, and see if that helps at all. I'm trying to
answer
Why does Grant describe it as their bike for fast rides? I am just
interested in what it is about this frame, and what they designed into the
frame, to make it for that intended purpose. It is not mentioned in their
description on the Rivbike.com site for the model, and I am curious.
This is
My feeling is that when the Rambouillet was supplanted by the AHH, a few people
felt that the added tire clearance of the AHH was a performance compromise,
somehow. The compromise was more perceived than real, but when a company is
trying to sell stuff, perception is everything. So Grant
You know, as has been covered a few times on this list the people at RBW
are really nice. If you have a question you can reach out to them by old
fashioned telephone and talk to them.
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:22 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
Why does Grant describe it as their bike
Are the geometries the same? I don't follow enough to know, honestly.
-J
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The geometries are quite different. You can compare here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc#gid=0
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 11:08 AM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote:
Are the geometries the same? I don't follow enough to know, honestly.
-J
A call to RBW would probably answer any questions but looking at the
published Riv geometry Google doc there are differences that would make the
Rodeo more of a club bike - shorter chainstays, less rake, slightly
different ST and HT angles. Those differences plus component selection add
up to
I am not ready to buy yet, so I don't want to waste their time on the
phone at this point.
At this point I am still going with the Hilsen when I get to buy for all
its eylet/braze on options, even though I am a saddle bag kinda guy and
don't need racks for the riding I do.
The Hilsen
Michael,
As I think others have pointed out, there is a link to a geometry
chart for Riv's models at the bottom of the frames page.
If you compare the numbers for same sizes I think the rodeo has less
bb drop (i.e. higher bb), shorter chainstays, steeper seat tubes, and
less fork rake. The rodeo
So, generally speaking, lots of folks agree that speed comes more from
the engine than anywhere else. I have a Road and a Saluki which is not that
far off from a Roadeo and AHH comparison. The Roadeo is lighter than the
Road is, but not by too much. The Road is about 2 mph on average faster for
me
I think mainly the tubing...Roadeo uses super lightweight and thinwall
stuff, really not designed for carrying much more than the rider (and a fit
one at that--there was some mention of a 200lb weight limit when it first
came out) and a small day-ride load. Probably not the thing for bumpy off
IIRC in the larger sizes( 57cm?) the Rodeo and Hilsen have the same tubing. I
believe this was mentioned when I was at RBW. The difference is in the geo and
braze ons.
Cheers!
Zz
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I'm not sure I understand the question in the Original Post. Michael wrote:
What makes the Roadeo the racier frame (performance-wise)? The geometry?
Lighter tubing?
A. Do you mean that you already know for a fact that the Roadeo is a
racier performing than a Hilsen, and you want to know what
I have also heard that they are the same, at least in the larger sizes. In any
case, if both were built with similar parts and fit, I think it'd be pretty
hard to measure a performance difference for any given rider.
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I am a proud Roadeo owner. I had owned a Ram. And, I have test driven a
Hilsen at Rivendell Bicycle Works. Mine is a 59cm. While my Roadeo is not a
light bike, its fits right in my club rides. The handling is superb and
very stable on fast downhills. It feels very similar to my Ram but is
William,
The description on the site led me to believe it is the fastest bike they make,
intended for fast club riding and not for touring/commuting/utility/country/
doingsomething riding like their other bikes are described. It even comes with
the option for an aheadset type headset.
It says
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