Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-10 Thread Eric Platt
Based on Avery's experience decided to put drops on my Sam Hillborne. Also with a Dirt Drop stem. Only had one 30 mile ride on it so far. Definitely is different. Still haven't decided it will stay this way or not. The reach to the bars is still about one inch further than my personal ideal.

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-09 Thread ted
Patrick, I hope you were able to get out for a ride today, and that you had a wonderful time. I posted in response to another posters suggestion to search for berto tire pressure. Doing so should turn up: http://www.bccclub.org/documents/Tireinflation.pdf. That article, or an earlier

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks for the clarification, Ted. I'm following along better now. My apologies for being grouchy. I did have a fantastic run and ride yesterday. good and sloppy, slushy, muddy. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:55:01 AM UTC-6, ted wrote: Patrick, I hope you were able

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-09 Thread ted
Glad you had a great time outside yesterday. May you have another today. No worries on being grouchy, and no apologies needed. Frankly I didn't detect much grouch in your post. Way in bounds of the norm around here. regards Ted On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:07:56 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
In bound? IN BOUNDS? Now THAT hurts! Grin. Kidding aside, you're far too kind, Ted. No ride today as it's a brain rest day. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 9:19:49 AM UTC-6, ted wrote: Glad you had a great time outside yesterday. May you have another today. No worries on

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-09 Thread Brian Campbell
I am 190 and running my Barlow Pass tires at 65 rear and 60 front. I may try an go a bit lower to see if things get better (they areally nice as is). It is all pretty subjective when it comes to preference. Start somewhere, keep track and experiment. Road surface, conditioning, length of ride,

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-08 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och, Ted! Your Google skills no doubt are fine. But why seek evidence of something that is logically incomplete? The optimum temperature is a 15% drop. Spread that around at all the rides you do and see if people start to believe you, to the point that in winter they ride in a tank top to

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-07 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fantastic! I'm delighted to hear it. I've been amazed how big a difference just changing things around with height/tilt and placement of shifters/levers with my Albatross bars made, so I can only imagine what the Albastache bars do. There is wonder and beauty in matching the cockpit to rider

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-07 Thread Conway Bennett
I'm 5'10.999 with a 88 PBH and that's a very close to my SH cockpit. I am running 46 noodles on a 10 cm Dirt Drop with TRP aero levers and Tektro Interrupters. I think I have five favorite hand positions with that setup. I wrapped clothe tape over cork on the whole bar and I'm happy I did.

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-07 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi Avery, Looks great, feels great... enjoy the ride! Looks like nice trails to explore. Happy spring! shoji On Sunday, April 6, 2014 9:35:03 PM UTC-4, Avery Wilson wrote: So I took some advice from you guys on this list and decided to tinker with the Sam Hillborne over the weekend.. and

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-07 Thread Avery E Wilson
Yep, Capt. Conway - I'm about an inch shorter than you with the same PBH, and I'm running the 8cm dirt drop stem, so just a bit less reach than yours. I suppose it stands to reason that it would work! Our bikes are almost identical in terms of cockpit, reach, even parts! I did just receive the

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-07 Thread Tim Gavin
I ride 650 x 38mm GB Lierres, and I weigh 220 lbs. I have good luck with those tires (standard casing, no EL available in that size at the time) I used the Tire Pressure Calculatorhttp://www.dorkypantsr.us/bike-tire-pressure-calculator.html and it gives me 55 psi front/65 psi rear. Since you're

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-07 Thread Chris Chen
search for berto tire pressure and you'll find plenty of graphs, articles, etc. On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Avery E Wilson avewil...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, Capt. Conway - I'm about an inch shorter than you with the same PBH, and I'm running the 8cm dirt drop stem, so just a bit less

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-07 Thread ted
Have you found any documentation of a substantive basis (not just an appeal to authority) for the oft repeated assertion that 15% tire drop gives an optimal trade off of rolling resistance and comfort? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-07 Thread Deacon Patrick
Bicycle Quarterly has done a fair bit of research on rolling resistance and tire width/pressure. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, April 7, 2014 7:20:41 PM UTC-6, ted wrote: Have you found any documentation of a substantive basis (not just an appeal to authority) for the oft repeated

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-07 Thread Deacon Patrick
Google: bicycle quarterly rolling resistance On Monday, April 7, 2014 7:42:04 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Bicycle Quarterly has done a fair bit of research on rolling resistance and tire width/pressure. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, April 7, 2014 7:20:41 PM UTC-6, ted wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-07 Thread ted
In my last exchange with Jan he asserted rolling resistance was basically i dependent of tire pressure, baring riding flat tires and very high pressures (or maybe it was ultra high). I don't think he mentioned 15% drop. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Frame Fitment Update

2014-04-07 Thread ted
I believe I have done that before, and I did just now. I may be incompetent but I didn't find test results documenting 15% tire drop as an optimum. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop