Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne as tourer

2014-01-28 Thread Tom Harrop
Grant or Dave sez in this Blug post Bar exit height should be listed on every bike’s geometry charts. Is this information (or frame stack) available somewhere for Rivs? It's not in the Geometry google-doc. I'm not trying to be a smarty pants here, this would be useful for me because I want to

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne as tourer

2014-01-28 Thread Mike
What I'd like to see are the TT lenghts for the new Sams. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne as tourer

2014-01-28 Thread Bill Lindsay
Tom Harrop I'll be glad to help you with that. It's a little trig on top of the numbers given in the Geo Charts. The two universal terms are Stack and Reach. The Stack is the elevation gain relative to the BB spindle. the Reach is the horizontal distance relative to the BB. STACK: 64cm

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne as tourer

2014-01-28 Thread Tom Harrop
Bill, that is exactly what I wanted to know, thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne as tourer

2014-01-28 Thread Cecily Walker
It was probably a dumb idea, but I rode my Betty Foy on some (very easy) singletrack on 38mm Soma New Express tires. Betty and I both lived to tell about it. On Monday, January 27, 2014 3:56:12 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote: don't tell that to this guy.. http://instagram.com/p/b9Pm8Fp48U/

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne as tourer

2014-01-28 Thread cyclotourist
And that is how it starts... once you find out how nice that dirt is... Never Going Back! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.comwrote: It was probably a dumb idea, but I rode my Betty Foy

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne as tourer

2014-01-28 Thread Christopher Chen
Riding your bike is never a dumb idea! On Jan 28, 2014 7:08 PM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.com wrote: It was probably a dumb idea, but I rode my Betty Foy on some (very easy) singletrack on 38mm Soma New Express tires. Betty and I both lived to tell about it. On Monday, January 27,

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne as tourer

2014-01-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
They go on to define where Atlantis and Hunqa fit in. Definitely shades of grey among touringish allrounderish countryish bikes. Off-road “expedition” tourers and single trackers should look to our other models like the Atlantis and Hunqapillar. For the rest of you.. Sam. On Monday, January

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne as tourer

2014-01-27 Thread Patrick Moore
I guess that one man's touring bike is another's off-road bike -- if it's not his road bike. From my short distance, rear-load-only experience with my Ram, I'd have to say that touring bike is a category that covers a lot of ground. In my experience, the Ram could very nicely carry 40 lb of gear,

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne as tourer

2014-01-27 Thread dougP
Any Rivendell, (possible exception being the Roadeo?) makes a better touring bike than the overwhelming majority of bikes sold. Since most tourists stick to developed roads, Sam is likely superb for that use. Comfort during long, back to back days in the saddle is key to an enjoyable touring

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne as tourer

2014-01-27 Thread Mike Schiller
don't tell that to this guy.. http://instagram.com/p/b9Pm8Fp48U/ he rode over Pearl Pass on one. I rode my Sam on singletrack all the time with some 42mm Smart Sams. I think it works just fine for that. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Monday, January 27, 2014 2:37:39 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay

[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne as tourer

2014-01-27 Thread Bill Lindsay
It just seems smart that someone smart smartly runs Smart Sam's on his smart Sam. On Monday, January 27, 2014 3:56:12 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote: don't tell that to this guy.. http://instagram.com/p/b9Pm8Fp48U/ he rode over Pearl Pass on one. I rode my Sam on singletrack all the

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne as tourer

2014-01-27 Thread Patrick Moore
The bar in the photo looks very much like a Compass Maes Parallel ... Regarding tires: different soils and surfaces. Of course, I've seen video of pro level cyclocrossers riding deep sand on 28s, but then they are putting out a lot more energy than they would be if they were riding 60s ... On