Re: [RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-23 Thread Steven Frederick
Yeah, I've always run mainly Shimano hubs and thought boutique hubs a bit of a waste of money. But since I had a little extra cash to blow and had a wheelset built around White Industry hubs, I get it. They're fantastic, and I'd have a hard time choosing anything else, excepting budgetary restrai

Re: [RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-22 Thread Garth
Europe Tony ! ... Europe ! Deore and LX in silver 36 hole. http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k1754/trekking.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an emai

[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-22 Thread Garth
Tony, The Hubs are maintenance free, of course a freewheel, as a freehub, will need some maintenance at some time , but this is largely dependent on the actual freewheel or freehub and the conditions one rides in. I've used Sachs 7 speed FW's since the 90's. The best I've used. The cog

Re: [RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-22 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Leslie I'm in the same boat as you, at 250lbs and not a gentle rider I'm more comfortable with 36 spokes... great feedback on the Shimano/Velocity combo. I found a Shimano T780 (XT) hub - http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/shimano-xt-rear-hub-t780/rp-prod67242 . It does have an alloy

Re: [RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-22 Thread Tim Gavin
My '97 Rivendell Road still uses its original (I believe) Phil Wood FW and front hub on Sun CR18's. I can't tell you the mileage (I bought it used this spring) but they have been well ridden. I've never felt a smoother ride. The Riv rolls so easily on those wheels. However, if I were building n

[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-22 Thread Leslie
First wheelset Rich built for me, my 700c set, was on older XT hubs and Dyad rims; just about perfect, for me. The second wheelset he built for me was a 650b Synergy set, but switched to LX hubs because he was out of the older XT hubs. Again, a great set. The wheelset I built myself, I used 650b

[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-21 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Hey Garth, that site is fantastic! Thanks for passing it along. Hey since you use the FW Phil hubs, what FW's do you use and where do you get them? I'd definitely be happy with 8 speed... and maybe even with 7. When you say no-maintenance are you referring to not having to service the free hu

[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-21 Thread Garth
Hey Tony I believe the confusion is the symbol they use looks a degree symbol, but it is obviously spoke count !! Lickton's in Chicago has always had the best prices on Phil hubs :) $329 for the rear cassette, that should help ! http://www.lickbike.com/productpage.aspx?PART_NUM_SUB=%27

[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-21 Thread Tony DeFilippo
duh. Gotcha... don't know why Phil calls it degree's and not spokes. :) I'll have to check out DT Swiss, I knew they did spokes and rims. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receivi

[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-21 Thread numbnuts
On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:44:45 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote: > > These are Hubs .. and they are Investments . Get the best first. > Hey All, The best for me are, and have been for many years, DT Swiss 240s. Or 340s if cheap enough. Or 440s if you need the beefy ones. This is based entirely

RE: [RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-21 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Behalf Of Tony DeFilippo Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 6:15 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT? Be GOOD to Yourself ... -Thanks Garth! :) Love this comment. So you got me on Phil's site... $400+ for a cassette hub? Out of my league I&#

[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-21 Thread William
36, 40 and 48 degree options Those are spoke hole drillings. On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:14:55 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > > Be GOOD to Yourself ... > > -Thanks Garth! :) Love this comment. So you got me on Phil's site... > $400+ for a cassette hub? Out of my league I'm afraid.

[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-21 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Be GOOD to Yourself ... -Thanks Garth! :) Love this comment. So you got me on Phil's site... $400+ for a cassette hub? Out of my league I'm afraid. Looking at the FW Touring hub's there are 36, 40 and 48 degree options... hate to ask the dumb quesiton but what does that mean? Anyone use

[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-21 Thread Garth
Be GOOD to Yourself ... get some Phil hubs . The VO hubs ? What about freehub bodies or other parts in the future ? I don't think so. XT hubs ? Do you like messing with adjustments and greasing them ? If so .. go for it.If not ... get the Phil. Or, the White Industries at leas

Re: [RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-21 Thread James Warren
My understanding is that if you are buying new parts, then LX is it. Shimano should come out with an LX crank with 24-36-46 chainrings and complete LX's journey toward its place as THE touring group. On Aug 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Tom Harrop wrote: > > > Say you just wanted the toughest, mos

[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-21 Thread Tom Harrop
I've also been looking at hubs recently and got pretty confused by several comments I came across about old vs. new XT vs. LX hubs, for example the switch to aluminium axles. Say you just wanted the toughest, most durable current-generation Shimano hub and didn't care at all about weight. Is LX

[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-21 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Mike, I'll have to do a comparison of LX vs XT... Matthew, I've had similar thoughts on some of the VO stuff. I'm very satisfied with their fenders, and the polyvalent double crank I have has been great but I'd be more comfortable hearing some first hand reports on the hubs, especially at

[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-21 Thread Mike
I say go with XT. I have them on a few of my bikes and have had no problems. The problem though is finding them. The non-disc XTs are pretty much unavailable in the US. Although the LX are fine. I will say that I scored an 36h XT through Amazon a while back. The price was great. I'm with Matthe

[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-21 Thread Matthew J
I would go with the XT. VO has some pretty ardent fans. I used to be back in the day when they were still selling NOS Pelissier hubs, racks made by Banjo and some incredible wicker baskets hand made by an Amish family in rural Minnesota (why did I ever give mine away!?!). I tried a few of the

[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

2013-08-21 Thread Mike Schiller
If you can find the older steel axle models the XT's are great. The newer versions have aluminum axles and smaller ball bearings. Actually the LX is probably a better hub these days for touring. Another fair -priced good touring hubset is the Ambrosio Zenith. They are popular in Europe and us