[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

Ron and Patrick- When I was a kid my dad (a physicist who worked as an engineer for M.I.T.'s Lincoln Laboratory for 50 years) told me to watch closely how my pinewood derby car acted during the big race. He explained before hand that my car, with it's weight pushed as far back as we could get

Re: [RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

Love your pannier. Looks like you could fit at least a week of groceries in there. > On Jun 5, 2018, at 8:54 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch > wrote: > > Oops! Forgot my favorite safety accessory. I've purchased a few of these from > Rivendell over the years: > > > > > >> On

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

Oops! Forgot my favorite safety accessory. I've purchased a few of these from Rivendell over the years: On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 6:40:12

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

Visibility is certainly a good idea. I like to wear one of those construction worker vests when I commute; they are generally better made and cheaper than the cycling specific visibility vests. But I don't necessarily subscribe to the "lower-than-average-speeds" approach. For most close

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

Safety and well being ... like Health ... isn't "made" , it just IS what IS is.. it's as natural as natural can be. It cannot even be expressed in any words . How do you express "Infinity" in words ?Hah ! It doesn't matter of course the end is the same as the beginning, the

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

I had a strong week, finishing out 120 mi with the available time, and been working on my cooling since the oppressive humidity arrived about a month ago. It's kind of an unwritten rule when we start out and coast down the long grade, nobody pedals until it goes flat, and if they do, they

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

Thanks, Ron. There’s a reason I only race trees. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

the torque of pedaling transfers weight to the rear (think about rear squat when you accelerate a car). Anything you can do to get weight up front makes you roll more efficiently. When you're pedaling hard, you get a core muscle advantage, also, and I beat John in last Sunday's sprint in the

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

Deac, I'll add that you get the effect even when you have a tailwind that's out gunning you, and you're making yourself a smaller sail by getting more weight up front. On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 2:52:40 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > totally 100% sure on this one Deac. > > On Monday, June 4,

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

totally 100% sure on this one Deac. On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 1:28:42 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > “Any riding position that adds weight to the rear wheel slows you down. . > If you want to demonstrate this (we start a 7-mile sprint every Sunday > morning down a 2-mile hill),

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

CHEVIUT 2 or 3 Bells Boscos 38's with fenders Constantly running front and back running lights via Dynamo hub This is my NYC rig and it couldn't be safer or more fun, IMO. Step-Thru adding to safety shouldn't be overlooked...every time I have to slam the brakes and put my feet on the ground I'm

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

I live in DC, and my city bike is a Ram, as pictured. Sure its a bit lighter and perhaps racier than the other bikes noted, but it is the bike best

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

“Any riding position that adds weight to the rear wheel slows you down. . If you want to demonstrate this (we start a 7-mile sprint every Sunday morning down a 2-mile hill), free-coast with your friends down a hill. The more weight you get on the front wheel, the more efficiently you'll roll.”

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

I notice when I’m in more street type clothes (compass knickers)usually with bright knee socks on my big upright cheviut cars stop or yield to me more. For darkness I have lots of reflective tape on fenders and frame plus lights and wear reflective vest. Eileen -- You received this message

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oops - Light & Motion Imjin On Monday, June 4, 2018 at 8:59:22 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > separate from my bike lighting, I have a Light & Motion Imjun on my helmet > > > > I turn it on at wary intersections to look at

Re: [RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

separate from my bike lighting, I have a Light & Motion Imjun on my helmet I turn it on at wary intersections to look at drivers - from their reaction to the light, I know what they're going to do On Monday, June 4, 2018

Re: [RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

I like Justin’s suggestion of the AHH. Or maybe the Atlantis, MIT, as I would fit in the 650b range for both. Thanks everyone. I’ve been mulling over a frame for almost a year now, and it’s funny how different life circumstances along the way have changed it all. Good thing I’m not wealthy...

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

I tend to agree, but in a great section of DC with a lot of bike lanes yesterday, a cyclist almost got hit by a car running a red light. John, I think you'll be happy with any Riv for your purposes. Now it's just about what ride characteristics you like in a bike. On Saturday, June 2, 2018 at

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

Any riding position that adds weight to the rear wheel slows you down. . If you want to demonstrate this (we start a 7-mile sprint every Sunday morning down a 2-mile hill), free-coast with your friends down a hill. The more weight you get on the front wheel, the more efficiently you'll roll.

Re: [RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

I've used them. Porteur bars with inverse levers are my first choice (the angles just feel good to me), but the B302s are nice. Eric On Sunday, June 3, 2018 at 7:58:37 PM UTC-4, John W wrote: > > Eric, you bring up a good point. > > I don’t weave around cars per se but the sharrows are narrow

Re: [RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

Eric, you bring up a good point. I don’t weave around cars per se but the sharrows are narrow where I am. What about the Nitto B302 All Rounder bars? 49cm wide, 65mm rise? Are they a popular choice? John > On Jun 3, 2018, at 7:39 PM, Eric Karnes wrote: > > Handlebar choice is also going

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

Handlebar choice is also going to depend on the type of city street you ride on. Center city Philly (where I ride) has tight gridded streets, lots of traffic, and limited bike lanes. I found a MAP bar to be much too wide, an Albatross to be a bit too wide, and a Velo Orange Porteur to be just

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

John, hmm, slower - really? You can always go slow on any bike -- but you can't always accelerate quickly, nor make quick turns (which you will need to do it traffic eventually) when on a bike set up in a very upright "Mary Poppins" mode meant just toodle around on. Also depends on how

Re: [RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

I agree. I like to wave my thanks and give thumbs up. I think the more the drivers see you as a person instead of an object on the road (a bike), the more respect and patience you will receive. Toshi On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:44 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > The waving thing is very underrated.

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

The waving thing is very underrated. I do a lot of eye-and-hand communicating with drivers to signal things like "gimme a minute, I gotta jet past this row of parked cars before moving right", then give a little wave of "thanks" afterward. I can't verify it, but I would swear the next 5-10 cars

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

I have only my own anecdotal evidence, specific for where I ride. What I’ve learned for visibility and safety when riding rural roads and small town traffic (which may or may not transfer to city riding): — Street cloths rather than cycling specific looking cloths means drivers see me and

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

I believe that Chartreuse is the most visible color in a refective medium (as opposed to projected). That is why emergency vehicles have shifting over from red and other “visible” colors. However, otange is probably way up there for visibility being so close to the yellows on the color

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

I don't have any stats, but I would think the bike frame is too small for color to make much difference, it's the rider you want to brighten up. A lot of riders here in Marin use orange safety vests over regular gear, which I see a mile away in my car. A bright helmet should help, too, although

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

Hi, Does anyone have any evidence that color makes a difference in safety? Brighter colors=safer colors? There was a study of motorcycle helmets, and the white ones have been shown to be more visible. Lady pulled out in front of me a while back, she stopped and apologized said she did

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

> * I’m thinking either a Sam or Atlantis might fit the bill.* > I believe you are on the right track. A Sam would be a bit more nimble and you can get the bars up. That, IMHO, is #1 for city riding. I was at my LBS and a local engineer crafted a periscope like gizmo that mounted on drop

[RBW] Re: What frame and build set make you a safer, slower rider?

Age makes me a slower rider. lol :D Agree with others that it's probably more handlebar related. Upright positions will naturally be safer and slower. For the frame, choose on the style of riding. On Saturday, June 2, 2018 at 10:30:55 AM UTC-5, John W wrote: > > I’ve been thinking a lot about