[RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-27 Thread Garth
This may help or it may confuse you more ...prolly a bit of both ! https://www.schwalbetires.com/sites/all/definitions/Performance.html *RaceGuardĀ®* This belt was developed specially with racing in mind. A synthesis of special india rubber and several layers of nylon fabric offers very e

[RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-27 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
To further confuse matters, the box that my TBs came in has no mention of Raceguard, Liteskin, or Snakeskin. Instead, it reads : *Evolution Line* The best possible. Highest quality materials. The latest technology *Performance Line* Excellent quality for intensive use. *Active Line* Reliable b

[RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-27 Thread drew
Well thanks. All the feedback seems like I should definitely go ahead and get them. Nobody seems unhappy. maybe I'll flip a coin as to the variation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop r

[RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-28 Thread Garth
I gotta say, Schwalbe's explanation of their tire tech is like lawyer speak. Maybe Schwalbe knows what they mean, but they don't convey it to the public very well and it's always been that way despite all the changes they make to their website. I have read more than a few people being sent the

[RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-28 Thread drew
a funny thing happened while i was hemming and hawing over which version to get. i found some wtb 29er nanos for 12$ each. i have no doubt they are a lesser tire, but i think they'll do for the weekend. i wonder how many people schwalbe loses to indecipherability. -- You received this me

Re: [RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-28 Thread Tim Gavin
Mark, you have to look at the sidewall label to see the composition of the exact tire. They use the same box for all their tires (though usually each will have sticker on it that specifies the tire inside). On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:09 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@

Re: [RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-28 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yup. But my sidewall only says EVO, no Raceguard, Liteskin, or Snakeskin designation. I would imagine each of these falls under a separate "line". Again, adding to the confusion. On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 9:04:43 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: > > Mark, you have to look at the sidewall label

Re: [RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-28 Thread David Banzer
I believe EVO just refers to the Evolution Line which is a group of Schwalbe's higher-end tires. I believe the Thunder Burt is only offered as Evolution, where other tires are offered as Evolution or Performance line, with different versions within each category. David River Grove, IL On Tuesda

Re: [RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-28 Thread Tim Gavin
Photo? There should be at least one (if not two) boxes next to "Evo" on the sidewall. http://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/images/pictures/schwalbe-rocket-ron-liteskin-2015-3.jpg On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 8:21 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrot

Re: [RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-28 Thread sameness
Per Schwalbe site , Art. No. 11600532 = 54-559 (26 x 2.10 ) - LiteSkin - PaceStar - Black Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-28 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
GoWould it be so hard to put that on the label or box somewhere? And then it says this on the website: Tubeless Easy Snakeskin

Re: [RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-28 Thread Garth
To add to the confusion though, the label says TL-ready, which is the previous generation term for tubeless ready. Now tubless ready is listed as TL-easy. Yes, the number matches the current version w/raceguard but since these are previous generation stock, it may or may not have been raceguard,

Re: [RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-28 Thread Garth
And too only the liteskin model is listed @395g for the 26x2.1, so the label seem to fit in line with everything else written by Schwalbe.confusing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and sto

Re: [RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
Reading this thread makes me /so/ glad that the only Schwalbe tire that I use, the Kojak in 32-369, comes exactly and only in one way. And it is currently the /only/ tire made in that size. It sure does make shopping for tires for my Moulton easy. It's a really good thing that it's an excell

Re: [RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-28 Thread Patrick Moore
But doesn't it come in wire or folding bead? At least, the 559 equivalent used to come with either. Schwalbe told me that both bead types had the same casing, though. On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > Reading this thread makes me *so* glad that the only Schwalbe tire that

Re: [RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-28 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
You spoke to Herr Schwalbe?!! Please tell him it's all Greek to me. On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 7:50:45 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Schwalbe told me that both bead types had the same casing, though. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R

Re: [RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Just to one of his elves. On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 5:58 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > You spoke to Herr Schwalbe?!! Please tell him it's all Greek to me. > > On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 7:50:45 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> Schw

Re: [RBW] Re: thunder burt snakeskin vs raceguard

2017-02-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/28/2017 07:50 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: But doesn't it come in wire or folding bead? No, the 32-369 is folding bead only. As I said, no choices whatsoever. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this g