Re: [RBW] Rearview mirrors: necessary, effective, recommendations?

2020-08-29 Thread Patrick Moore
https://vimeo.com/47833797 On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:53 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > "I deny that assertion categorically." > > Of course, it's not your opinion. Its ATMO. > > On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 12:26:21 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: > >> I deny that assertion categorically. >> >> On

Re: [RBW] Rearview mirrors: necessary, effective, recommendations?

2020-08-29 Thread Joel Stern
Absolutely. Good thread, as noted above I use a mirror but will surely use my head a bit more to let motorists think about my intentions. I do it now anyway but Steve is correct, as we age our bodies don’t always let us do all we want too. After 2 back surgeAries and a variety of others I know

Re: [RBW] Rearview mirrors: necessary, effective, recommendations?

2020-08-29 Thread Joe Bernard
"I deny that assertion categorically." Of course, it's not your opinion. Its ATMO. On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 12:26:21 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: > I deny that assertion categorically. > > On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:23 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > >> So no "both sides are valid" here,

Re: [RBW] Rearview mirrors: necessary, effective, recommendations?

2020-08-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
Not everybody has sufficient range of motion so that looking back over the shoulder actually works.  And not to deny Patrick's experience at age 11, but years later those aged vertebrae and related parts might not be as up to the job as they were back when they were young and unscathed by

Re: [RBW] Rearview mirrors: necessary, effective, recommendations?

2020-08-29 Thread Patrick Moore
I deny that assertion categorically. On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 1:23 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > So no "both sides are valid" here, I don't think the shoulder check > and hearing is enough on the road. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Rearview mirrors: necessary, effective, recommendations?

2020-08-29 Thread Joe Bernard
That big cat is why I think mirrors are necessary. Especially in my area where half the cars that pass me are plug-in hybrids or Teslas, I can't rely on my (aging) hearing to know what's coming. It also doesn't tell me if the idiot is texting, a thing I can see through a windshield. So no

Re: [RBW] Rearview mirrors: necessary, effective, recommendations?

2020-08-29 Thread Jim Kramka
I use a mirror attached to my glasses and would never go back to riding without. I’ve tried two different bar mounted mirrors and found them significantly less safe and useful. I can look in my mirror without moving my head. I can scan lanes behind and beside me with just slight movement,

Re: [RBW] Rearview mirrors: necessary, effective, recommendations?

2020-08-28 Thread Patrick Moore
I used several different kinds of glasses-mount, helmet mount, and bar mount mirrors for several years, and found I didn't trust them; I preferred then and still prefer listening and learning how to glance over my left shoulder while holding a straight line. I find that having to listen to traffic

Re: [RBW] Rearview mirrors: necessary, effective, recommendations?

2020-08-28 Thread Edwin W
Lyman wrote about german mirror on albstache " i have not found a way to mount them without interfering with hand grip" I had one on Noodles for awhile and found that to be a perfect match, better than when I had it on albatross. I just switched back to albatross and found that the mirror just

Re: [RBW] Rearview mirrors: necessary, effective, recommendations?

2020-08-28 Thread Lyman Labry
Hi, I highly recommended mirrors. Ive always used the German one mounted on drop bars. However, with my new Albatasche bars, i have not found a way to mount them without interfering with hand grip. Any help there would be appreciated. Thanks, Lyman On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 11:21 AM Matthew

Re: [RBW] Rearview mirrors: necessary, effective, recommendations?

2020-08-28 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
Matthew: I have used a helmet-mounted mirror for decades. In my opinion, going out without a mirror is like driving a car with a rear view mirror—not smart. I check it constantly to maintain “situational awareness” of the vehicles on the road around me, including this approaching from behind.

[RBW] Rearview mirrors: necessary, effective, recommendations?

2020-08-28 Thread Matthew Williams
Hi everyone, I'm thinking about getting a small, bar-mounted rearview mirror. For the past forty-five years I've ridden without one and I'm in the habit of constantly checking my surroundings, but after riding in traffic for several months I'm thinking a mirror might be a good idea. Do you