[RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

2020-12-18 Thread Den John
Hello, My name is Johnny. I live in Belgium and I'm Riv Curious. I post from time to time on the iBOB group. I've been obsessed with the idea of owning a Riv for a while. I'm particularly interested in the Atlantis and Appaloosa. Could anyone tell me the stack & reach numbers for a 55cm Atlan

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

2020-12-18 Thread Matthew Williams
Hi Johnny, Here's a site for comparing frames: https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5b8578f548f3a30004789b07,5ad1288a9127aa0014fa1d9c&builds=, On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:55 AM, Den John wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Johnny. I live in Belgium and I'm Riv Curious. I post from time to >

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

2020-12-18 Thread Den John
Thanks Matthew, that is incredibly helpful. Johnny On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 at 23:52, Matthew Williams < matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Johnny, > > Here's a site for comparing frames: > > > https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5b8578f548f3a30004789b07,5ad1288a9127aa0014fa1d9c&bui

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

2020-12-18 Thread Matthew Williams
Whoops, sorry about that! Here are the frames you selected: White outline: 57 Appaloosa (2020) Black outline: 55 Atlantis (2019) https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5e308654dcfe4e001737cc7d%2C5e1faf637f17da00170c6e27 Welcome to the list, Johnny! On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:16 PM, Den John w

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

2020-12-18 Thread Dave Johnston
I have found bikeinsights to be wrong on both Stack and Reach for Rivendell bikes. They don't take into account the head-tube extension built into Riv's lugs. -Dave J On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 8:53:13 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote: > Whoops, sorry about that! Here are the frames you se

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

2020-12-18 Thread Dave Johnston
I don't know if every model is wrong on Bike insights but when they skip the 20mm head-tube extension in the calculated values, the Stack would actually be 19mm higher and the reach 6mm Less. On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 9:13:12 PM UTC-5 Dave Johnston wrote: > I have found bikeinsights to be

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

2020-12-18 Thread David Johnston
I have also found on some of the older Rivendell models with 2°-3° sloping top tubes Bike insights mixes up the effective top tube and calls it the actual top tube and then calculates a longer effective top tube. -Dave On 12/18/20, Dave Johnston wrote: > I don't know if every model is wrong on

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

2020-12-19 Thread Den John
No worries, I already spent a good few hours fiddling with the various models and options on there :-) On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 02:53, Matthew Williams < matthewwilliamsdes...@gmail.com> wrote: > Whoops, sorry about that! Here are the frames you selected: > White outline: 57 Appaloosa (2020) > Blac

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

2020-12-19 Thread Den John
Ah, I was wonndering about that. Any idea how long those extensions generally are? I'm wondering if I can get away without a riser stem. On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 at 03:13, Dave Johnston wrote: > I have found bikeinsights to be wrong on both Stack and Reach for > Rivendell bikes. They don't take into

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

2020-12-19 Thread brendonoid
The current (2020) 57cm appaloosa is also 10mm longer in the toptube than the old (2017-2019) 58cm. This caught me offguard because they specifically stated that all measurements were the same when they are not. Bike insights is listing 61.5 TT when it is currently 62.5 -- You received this me

Re: [RBW] Stack & Reach for Joe Appaloosa & Atlantis

2020-12-19 Thread brendonoid
And ignore my last post I was looking at the wrong tabs on my browser. On Saturday, 19 December 2020 at 23:15:00 UTC+8 brendonoid wrote: > The current (2020) 57cm appaloosa is also 10mm longer in the toptube than > the old (2017-2019) 58cm. This caught me offguard because they specifically > s