Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

That's the group I remember; I think the magazine was more interesting back then. On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Bernie Burton wrote: > I was a little known member of the Bicycling Magazine editorial health > board from 1987 to 2001. Ed Pavelka, Fred Matheny, Dr. Ed Burke and the > entirety of

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

I was a little known member of the Bicycling Magazine editorial health board from 1987 to 2001. Ed Pavelka, Fred Matheny, Dr. Ed Burke and the entirety of the editorial health board were summarily dismissed at the same time. Dr Bernie Burton On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:59 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

The editor I have in mind was quite a bit after DeLong and Bertoe; this man was part of the team through the '90s, and among other entries I recall his account of a record breaking - personal or absolute - ride through the up and down terrain of Pennsylvania. He later had a blog, but I forget his n

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

"... Of course, one reason I dumped Bicycling is that most of its writing was pretty dull, after they dumped their editors -- Bill Strickland, the aging, raging roadie whose name I forget, and others in the annum horribilem 2 decades or so ago ..." I used to subscribe for a number or years back

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

Well, perhaps not "nonsense" so much as the thoughtless assertion that comes from having to fill column inches by a deadline? And, as Steve says, perhaps he meant SRAM and Campy? Back to Bicycling: 30 years ago, when I started cycling again after a more or less 10 year hiatus, I recall eagerly ant

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

I have at least one bike with modern componentry, all Campagnolo Centaur, 10 speed. It's all on a recently-built Mercian, built for 57mm brakes. It is a shame that Campy doesn't make a longer reach brake, but I used a higher-end model of Tektros that had a really nice polished finish, nice barre

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

Maybe the Riv sensibilities wander even further afield? http://pelotonmagazine.com/pages/lemond-bikes-radical-geometry/ On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:21 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On 05/12/2016 12:56 PM, Mark Reimer wrote: > >> Yeah, but brakes are the exception to that. You can run long reac

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

On 05/12/2016 12:56 PM, Mark Reimer wrote: Yeah, but brakes are the exception to that. You can run long reach brakes with pretty much any brand of road levers. So if anything, the author's comment seems quite misleading to me. The way it's written suggests that if you have Campy/SRAM you're o

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

Here, here. Actually, I had not considered the whole adherence-to-complete-groups thing, but completely agree. Your suggested fix to the article is perfect. I, myself, have a complete mish-mash of stuff on my Roadeo to suit my needs best. I didn't have stuff lying around either. I had to acquir

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

Ron, please save your prickle for someone else. I put no words in your mouth and said pretty clearly "I interpreted Ron Mc's..." I also said pretty clearly that this attitude stems from design and marketing. Have a great ride! I really like your Viner! On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Ron Mc

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

well that's certainly extrapolating - here, have these words back that you put in my mouth. It's more about marketing than anything On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 12:15:31 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: > > Yes, it's disappointing that the author didn't make that more clear. > > I interpreted Ron Mc's

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It's like bag-matching, but with bike parts. Why would you want to mix things? I'll bring this up as a topic with my matchy-matchy support group next week. --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy > On May 12, 2016, at 10:13 AM, sameness wrote: > > It's not j

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

Yes, it's disappointing that the author didn't make that more clear. I interpreted Ron Mc's "it's just the whole gruppo thing" to be a regretful observation that many roadies are "complete-ists" and wouldn't think of mixing and matching parts from other groups (let alone other manufacturers). Aka,

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it's a lot of fun to design your bike, use the best parts at the best prices you can find especially when you designed it to work together well -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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I think this brings us full circle to the gruppo point. My admittedly limited personal interactions with the type of roadie who likely represents this magazine's target audience is that mixing group components, let alone manufacturers, is tantamount to apostasy. It's not just frowned up. It's

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

Yeah, but brakes are the exception to that. You can run long reach brakes with pretty much any brand of road levers. So if anything, the author's comment seems quite misleading to me. The way it's written suggests that if you have Campy/SRAM you're out of luck to run long reach brakes. Which is obv

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

Perhaps Ron means that the "gruppo" thing (or, if you prefer, "groupo") now more than before locks you in to one manufacturer's thrall, what with the much greater precision required to shift 11 speeds, pre-attached bb spindles, and the like. Me, I *do* like groups, at least old ones (SunTour Super

RE: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Henry Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 2:00 PM To: Riv List Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little. "it's just the whole gruppo thing" That's even more confusing to me. It's bad when things are designed to wo

Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

"it's just the whole gruppo thing" That's even more confusing to me. It's bad when things are designed to work well together? This seems to be a particularly strange part of the cycling world. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Ron Mc wrote: > it's just the whole gruppo thing > > -- > You re

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bicycling Magazine redeems itself...a little.

On 05/11/2016 04:42 PM, Ron Mc wrote: it was a good article right up to the, /unfortunately, SRAM and Campagnolo don't make long-reach brakes/ Wouldn't it be a good thing if they did? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. T