Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Also, see Matt Chester on 63xc.com and on his own blog, 5 meters of development (worth reading for other issues as well -- he's wordy and weird but has some interesting takes on off road riding, off road bikes, and off road bike setup. I personally find the Midge-+-Tektro hoods combo to be one of t

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-08 Thread Philip Williamson
I was thinking "if you don't like angled hoods..." The Midge hoods are more angled than the WCs, at about 45 degrees, vs the WCs almost vertical. The tops on the Midges are narrower. I do have the narrower Woodchipper bars, so that's something to account for, re my opinion. Twentynineinches.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Is this necessarily true? I didn't use the Woodchipper very long at all, but they are wider than the Midge and seemed to have a steeper flare and less comfortable hoods -- it was some time ago, so I may not remember accurately. But the Midges are definitely worth a look, if not a try -- somewhere

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-07 Thread Bertin753
The Midges give me 4 hand positions including the very relaxing flats position. Patrick Moore iPhone On Feb 7, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Esteban wrote: > Now, that's a Rivendell. I wouldn't change a damn thing - totally dialed in. > Woodchippers would give you more drop, but if you find the Moustach

RE: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-06 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I have a dark green Brooks B-17 on my QB, and it's never left any coloration on clothing, even in the rain. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jinxed Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 9:29 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subjec

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-06 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Nice bikes -- interesting setups. I'm surprised you get only 53 mm from a 60 mm Big Apple. Are they new? Mine have measured up to 65 mm on wide rims. On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Philip Williamson > > > Woodchipper: http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/6224830224/ > Midge: http://www.f

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-05 Thread cyclotourist
They're out pretty far, but not problematically. Nail the hood width and don't worry about the flare. They fit on Dirt Drops if you can get the 25.4... guess I should have kept mine! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5846158807/ On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:28 PM, jinxed wrote: > WOW!! GR

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Oh my! Helps to scroll down a bit. Never mind. I also see that the 42 cm bar is 59 cm wide at the hooks' ends, so there goes that, too. Patrick "it *is* a disappointing day" Moore On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Jim Mather wrote: > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM, PATRICK MOORE > wrote: > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-05 Thread Jim Mather
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:55 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > Tho' perhaps the 25.4 is no longer made? > That's why it says this in the listing: "Item is discontinued and is no longer available" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Not per this: http://www.treefortbikes.com/product/333222370492/79/Salsa-Moto-Ace-Woodchipper.html Tho' perhaps the 25.4 is no longer made? I must try a 42 *if* I can find one in a 25.4. On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Jim Mather wrote: > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:41 PM, René Sterental > wrot

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-05 Thread Jim Mather
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:41 PM, René Sterental wrote: > I can't seem to make sense of why you cannot use a Nitto Dirt Drop stem with > the Woodchiper bars... I don't have them, but it puzzles me... > The Woodchipper only comes with a 31.8 clamp diameter. -- You received this message because yo

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-05 Thread René Sterental
I can't seem to make sense of why you cannot use a Nitto Dirt Drop stem with the Woodchiper bars... I don't have them, but it puzzles me... On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:05 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Keith: interesting observations. I'm curious about the differences between > the Midge (which I've r

Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of changing up the All Rounder - or spring fever??

2013-02-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Keith: interesting observations. I'm curious about the differences between the Midge (which I've recently found to the be ne plus ultra of flared, offroad drops) and the Woodchipper (which I disliked at first sight: wish I had one to compare to the Midege). My own objection to the Woodchipper was