Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

Like I said, that's my opinion. I would never begrudge you yours. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

I'm glad you have found the solution that you like, but some of us do like the way cantilevers work and are glad they still exist. Saying cantilevers are obsolete and only exist for fashion is a mistake. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

Thanks. I had a Heron Road back in the day, too. It was a wonderful bike and I wish I still had it to complete the collection, but in reality, it is too racy for me. I'm much happier with wider tires and fenders. I think the cantilever brakes I had last on the Heron Touring were the BR550s. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

My caliper (Paul racer) Sam fits 700x50 tires just fine, and I've run 42s with fenders just fine as well. Neither felt like I was pushing it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

Thanks. And yours is from 2009, which would be about the same time, or perhaps just a year or so later than mine was made. Point granted. On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Bob K. wrote: > Chris--That's a handsome bike! > > Patrick--Here are a couple of (admittedly very poor)

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

Those are WTB Nano 700x40. They measure 37mm on my rims. That's the biggest that would fit in the chainstays. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

My Sam had cantilevers (IRDs, set up by Riv staff -- best brakes I've ever used in terms of stopping power, light touch, and modulation or feel -- and, while it's been 6-7 years, I don't think mine could take such fat tires. I ran Jack Brown Greens. Perhaps I mis-remember. On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

Patrick Moore said: "IIRC (my Sam Hill was an earlier model), the Sam can't fit tires much fatter." I run 42 mm Soma Shikoros on my '09 (canti) Sam, and could likely do so with fenders, though I haven't tried. I have also tried 47 mm Marathons without issue. Other folks even run 50 mm Big

RE: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vs Heron Touring ... GO

Just to add some as a former owner of a Heron Touring: I sold it last year for financial reasons which was the right thing to do under my present circumstances (I still have four bikes) but miss it, a very nice and useful bike with character. It was bought at the same time Riv launched the