[Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-19 Thread Christoph Bergmeir
Hi Rcpp list, the CRAN maintainers still don't seem to be too happy about the dependence on GNU make that gets introduced by $(shell) in the Makevars files. The package I recently submitted to CRAN, RSNNS, uses exactly the same mechanism as proposed in the Rcpp vignette or is implemented e.g.

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-17 Thread Dominick Samperi
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Romain Francois wrote: > Le 17/11/10 17:16, Dominick Samperi a écrit : > >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Romain Francois >> mailto:rom...@r-enthusiasts.com>> wrote: >> >>Le 17/11/10 16:09, Dominick Samperi a écrit : >> >> >> >>On Wed, Nov 17, 2010

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-17 Thread Romain Francois
Le 17/11/10 17:16, Dominick Samperi a écrit : On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Romain Francois mailto:rom...@r-enthusiasts.com>> wrote: Le 17/11/10 16:09, Dominick Samperi a écrit : On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Shane Conway mailto:shane.con...@gmail.com>

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-17 Thread Dominick Samperi
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Romain Francois wrote: > Le 17/11/10 16:09, Dominick Samperi a écrit : > >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Shane Conway > > wrote: >> >>Dominick, >> >>My 2 cents: >> >>Nobody gets to decide when something is dead;

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-17 Thread Romain Francois
Le 17/11/10 16:09, Dominick Samperi a écrit : On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Shane Conway mailto:shane.con...@gmail.com>> wrote: Dominick, My 2 cents: Nobody gets to decide when something is dead; it's more a consensus view driven by everyone who uses or contributes. Looki

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-17 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 17 November 2010 at 09:56, Shane Conway wrote: | Dominick, | | My 2 cents: | | Nobody gets to decide when something is dead; it's more a consensus | view driven by everyone who uses or contributes. Looking back at the | RcppTemplate archive, I think that characterization is pretty | accurate

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-17 Thread Dominick Samperi
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Shane Conway wrote: > Dominick, > > My 2 cents: > > Nobody gets to decide when something is dead; it's more a consensus > view driven by everyone who uses or contributes. Looking back at the > RcppTemplate archive, I think that characterization is pretty > accurat

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-17 Thread Shane Conway
Dominick, My 2 cents: Nobody gets to decide when something is dead; it's more a consensus view driven by everyone who uses or contributes. Looking back at the RcppTemplate archive, I think that characterization is pretty accurate: http://cran.r-project.org/src/contrib/Archive/cxxPack/Ancestry/.

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-17 Thread Romain Francois
Le 17/11/10 15:38, Dominick Samperi a écrit : On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Dirk Eddelbuettel mailto:e...@debian.org>> wrote: On 16 November 2010 at 23:28, Dominick Samperi wrote: | I explained already how anyone who cares can do a diff and resolve | this objectively. Please

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-17 Thread Dominick Samperi
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > On 16 November 2010 at 23:28, Dominick Samperi wrote: > | I explained already how anyone who cares can do a diff and resolve > | this objectively. > > Please show us such a diff and put some proof into this pudding. > > Or else stop ha

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-17 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 16 November 2010 at 23:28, Dominick Samperi wrote: | I explained already how anyone who cares can do a diff and resolve | this objectively. Please show us such a diff and put some proof into this pudding. Or else stop harping about a non-existing issue. Time to "put up or shut up". | afte

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-17 Thread Romain Francois
Dominick, Le 17/11/10 02:49, Dominick Samperi a écrit : [...] Correction here. That package that was left "dead and rotting" on CRAN was updated by its author (that would be me) in November of 2009 to include object-mapping features that were later reimplemented

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-17 Thread Romain Francois
Le 17/11/10 05:28, Dominick Samperi a écrit : I explained already how anyone who cares can do a diff and resolve this objectively. Please people who care, step forward and do as the man says. I also granted that Romain made major contributions after Nov 2009, so Rcpp today is a different anim

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-16 Thread Dominick Samperi
I explained already how anyone who cares can do a diff and resolve this objectively. I also granted that Romain made major contributions after Nov 2009, so Rcpp today is a different animal. This thread started with your remark that my prior work, work that is the foundation for the current Rcpp pac

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-16 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 16 November 2010 at 20:49, Dominick Samperi wrote: | Isn't the use the name 'Rcpp' an import? | You have simply taken my song and are singing it in your own way! Boy this is getting so old. You left the package name Rcpp in _February of 2006_ at _your own choosing_ when you (for no apparent r

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-16 Thread Dominick Samperi
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Romain Francois wrote: > Dominick, > > Le 16/11/10 21:38, Dominick Samperi a écrit : > >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel > > wrote: >> >> >>Hi Christoph, >> >>On 16 November 2010 at 15:59, Christoph Bergmeir wrot

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-16 Thread Douglas Bates
I shouldn't respond but ... On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Dominick Samperi wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: >> >> Hi Christoph, >> >> On 16 November 2010 at 15:59, Christoph Bergmeir wrote: >> | Hi Rcpp list, >> | >> | the CRAN maintainers still don't s

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-16 Thread Romain Francois
Dominick, Le 16/11/10 21:38, Dominick Samperi a écrit : On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel mailto:e...@debian.org>> wrote: Hi Christoph, On 16 November 2010 at 15:59, Christoph Bergmeir wrote: | Hi Rcpp list, | | the CRAN maintainers still don't seem to be

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-16 Thread Dominick Samperi
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > Hi Christoph, > > On 16 November 2010 at 15:59, Christoph Bergmeir wrote: > | Hi Rcpp list, > | > | the CRAN maintainers still don't seem to be too happy about the > dependence on GNU make that gets introduced by $(shell) in the Makev

Re: [Rcpp-devel] Dependence on GNU make because of $(shell)

2010-11-16 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Hi Christoph, On 16 November 2010 at 15:59, Christoph Bergmeir wrote: | Hi Rcpp list, | | the CRAN maintainers still don't seem to be too happy about the dependence on GNU make that gets introduced by $(shell) in the Makevars files. | | The package I recently submitted to CRAN, RSNNS, uses exa