Re: [TANKS] Re: Adhesive

2011-01-05 Thread Susan Gutbrodt
Roger that J.P. Aaron: I guess I need to see the gnome and also need to see what parts I have out there that might be good for the Grant build H Guess I need to see the gnome about tracks for that one too.. Kurt(I believe in Magic Gnomes and Flying Elvi too)G - Original M

[TANKS] Re: Adhesive

2011-01-05 Thread jvragu47
Advice from Alliance East. When in doubt, hire the gnome. The price is right. See you in a few. John P. On Jan 4, 2:22 am, "Susan Gutbrodt" wrote: > Joe, or anyone else with experience , > > I was thinking I might try using a bike inner tube attached to the Brumm's > Interlok tracks to enhan

[TANKS] Re: Help diagnosing poor performance

2011-01-05 Thread HV
Thanks for the input guys. Doug: I gradually increased the track tension to where there is little slippage, although the rolling resistance of the tracks seems high to me, but I don't have anything to compare it to. So at the current track tension, the problem manifests as mostly stalling, as Fran

Re: [TANKS] Re: Help diagnosing poor performance

2011-01-05 Thread Frank Pittelli
Also, 10 AWG is "ok" from the speed controller to each motor, but you should run separate lines from the battery/fuses/switch to the speed controller channels because of the combined current draw of the EVs. Frank P. On 1/5/2011 12:30 PM, HV wrote: 1) Gear ratio: 6:1 2) Drive

Re: [TANKS] Re: Help diagnosing poor performance

2011-01-05 Thread dwconn404
Henry, when you try to trun in grass, is there slippage anywhere ? Do the belts in the transmission slip ? Does the track slip on the drive wheel ? Or does is simply seem like the motors don't have enough umph to turn the tank ? Do you know how old your battery is ?    - Doug -

Re: [TANKS] Re: Help diagnosing poor performance

2011-01-05 Thread Frank Pittelli
Speed kills. The gear ratio of 6:1 is too low, significantly dropping the amount of torque to the drive shaft. At that ratio, the tank will have problems starting from a dead stop, climbing up things and turning. In all those cases, the EVs will bog down, draw excessive current and basically

[TANKS] Re: Help diagnosing poor performance

2011-01-05 Thread HV
1) Gear ratio: 6:1 2) Drive wheel diam: 4.25 inch 3) Speed control: Robot Solutions, 160 A (I think) 4) Wire gauge: 10 AWG 5) Motor age: Don't know And the treads are square, not beveled. Keep in mind, I'm not the builder of the tank, nor was the previous owner, so I'm just finding out what its q

[TANKS] Re: Help diagnosing poor performance

2011-01-05 Thread Steve Tyng
T005 ran EVW's at 12v with no turning issues. Gear reduction was 9:1 and it had a friction drive. Provide the data Frank requested and we'll work through this. Steve On Jan 5, 9:25 am, HV wrote: > I've been testing my tank and the turning performance is poor. The > tanks has EV Warrior motors

Re: [TANKS] Re: Help diagnosing poor performance

2011-01-05 Thread Bill Hamilton
The shape of your treads could be the problem. If the sides are square, they will dig in when you try to turn. If you can angle the sides of the treads, that could help. You want them to look like \_/ not |_| When looking at them from the front. -Bill Hamilton On Jan 5, 2011, at 9:

Re: [TANKS] Re: Help diagnosing poor performance

2011-01-05 Thread Frank Pittelli
Yes, we ran some of tanks on EVs at 12v, at heavier weights, so let's explore all the parameters to help diagnose the problem: 1) What gear ratio are you using between the motors and drive shaft? 2) What's the diameter of your friction drive wheels? 3) What type of speed control, if any, are y

[TANKS] Re: Help diagnosing poor performance

2011-01-05 Thread HV
Yeah, I'm definitely short of torque, but I had the impression that others were able to run EVW's at 12V OK. Probably not the case eh? On Jan 5, 10:04 am, Clark Ward Jr wrote: > Go to 24V, you're short on torque. > > > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:25 AM, HV wrote: > > I've been testing my tank and

Re: [TANKS] Help diagnosing poor performance

2011-01-05 Thread Clark Ward Jr
Go to 24V, you're short on torque. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:25 AM, HV wrote: > I've been testing my tank and the turning performance is poor. The > tanks has EV Warrior motors with two stages of gears, friction drive > wheels, and TTS tracks with molded treads. A pretty standard design > that see

[TANKS] Help diagnosing poor performance

2011-01-05 Thread HV
I've been testing my tank and the turning performance is poor. The tanks has EV Warrior motors with two stages of gears, friction drive wheels, and TTS tracks with molded treads. A pretty standard design that seems to work for other folks' tanks. It weighs around 90 lbs, currently with no turret an