[TANKS] Re: Armor Ratings

2011-05-03 Thread Steve Tyng
> Therefore, at this time we must respectfully decline the offer > to incorporate the Tyng Horizontal Plane Measurement Standard and the children of the world weep. -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups

Re: [TANKS] Re: Armor Ratings

2011-05-03 Thread Frank Pittelli
Mr. Tyng, Your request is denied. The amount of money required to convene a Special Board of Inquiry in the Bahamas is not warranted at this time. Perhaps the General Board of Directors will take up the matter during their normal Christmas meeting in the Cook Islands, if time allows. The of

[TANKS] Re: Armor Ratings

2011-05-03 Thread Steve Tyng
Gregory wrote: > It could be done by the horizontal thickness of the frontal armour, that way > the T-34 would have thicker than 45mm armour (can't be bothered doing the > maths). I just did the math. The 45mm plate slanted to the 60 degrees (as on the front of a T34) works out to 90mm in the ho

[TANKS] Re: Armor Ratings

2011-05-03 Thread Pete Arundel
Kinetic energy AP rounds are usually direct fire and pretty flat trajectory. The thinness of top armour isn't usually a problem unti you venture into the city - or some lucky allied gunner bounces a round off the underside of your Panther's mantlet straight into the top of your driver's head - don'

[TANKS] Re: Armor Ratings

2011-05-03 Thread neroc
I see , but is this all presuming that all incoming shells follow the horizon ? On May 3, 4:09 pm, Pete Arundel wrote: > As usual, Neil, the reality is quite complicated. Take a tank like the > Tiger. The nose plate is very thick and nearly vertical as is the > drivers plate but the plate over

[TANKS] Re: Armor Ratings

2011-05-03 Thread Pete Arundel
As usual, Neil, the reality is quite complicated. Take a tank like the Tiger. The nose plate is very thick and nearly vertical as is the drivers plate but the plate over the drivers legs between the nose and the drivers plates, the glacis, is almost horizontal and so can be made much thinner - and

[TANKS] Re: Armor Ratings

2011-05-03 Thread neroc
"Well actually due to the increased length of an angled plate over a vertical one there is little if any weight saving . . ." if the front of a tank looks like this \ will it use less metal of the same thinkness to join the same two points than if it was this shape ¬?? FTF tech department

Re: [TANKS] Re: Armor Ratings

2011-05-02 Thread Gregory Kampjes
There is also the fact that the angle will tend to make rounds ricochet. -Gregory On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Pete Arundel wrote: > > > > The slope offers increased armor thickness in the horizontal plane > > (with less total weight) AND also provides a deflection advantage on > > incoming r

[TANKS] Re: Armor Ratings

2011-05-02 Thread Pete Arundel
> The slope offers increased armor thickness in the horizontal plane > (with less total weight) AND also provides a deflection advantage on > incoming rounds.  45mm indeed!! > Well actually due to the increased length of an angled plate over a vertical one there is little if any weight saving

[TANKS] Re: Armor Ratings

2011-04-30 Thread Cobra
Well thats what I get for making an assumption. I made an "*ss" out of "u" and "umption" I belive i will be buildng a M4(105) Sherman next. After all, when I started T076 I built 2 hulls, but shoved one in the shed for my brother in Afganistan and worked soley on the one. -- You are currently su

Re: [TANKS] Re: Armor Ratings

2011-04-30 Thread Gregory Kampjes
It could be done by the horizontal thickness of the frontal armour, that way the T-34 would have thicker than 45mm armour (can't be bothered doing the maths). -Gregory On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Steve Tyng wrote: > Only the unenlightened among us would think a T34 only has 45mm > frontal

[TANKS] Re: Armor Ratings

2011-04-30 Thread Steve Tyng
Only the unenlightened among us would think a T34 only has 45mm frontal armor! For wasn't it the T34 that introduced sloped armor? The slope offers increased armor thickness in the horizontal plane (with less total weight) AND also provides a deflection advantage on incoming rounds. 45mm indeed!!