Re: One more question: RDA development tracking

2008-03-03 Thread Katherine R. Morgan
Yes, I would welcome that kind of information especially as chair of a cataloging standards committee to the consortium my library belongs to. Katherine Quoting Karen Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: That sounds right on track -- and you are right about the audience. This is for practitioners

Re: One more question: RDA development tracking

2008-03-03 Thread Marjorie Bloss
I'll get on it! Remember, this will be a dynamic document where things will be added or modified when appropriate. I'll let you know when it's available. Cordially, MarjorieMarjorie E. Bloss, RDA Project Manager 2827 West Gregory Street Chicago, Illinois 60625 USA 1-773-878-4008 1-519-4

Re: One more question: RDA development tracking

2008-03-03 Thread Shawne Miksa
The RDA Implementation Task Force (see http://www.ala.org/ala/alctscontent/CCS/rdaimplement/rda.cfm ) has been charged with addressing these types of issues so I think I should pop in here and contribute some thoughts. That said, I fully realize we haven't yet actually produced a viable resourc

Re: One more question: RDA development tracking

2008-03-03 Thread Brown, Charlotte
I second that. It would definitely be welcome by many people. I would be very interested to have this sort of information. Charlotte Brown Chef de section, Services techniques Head of Technical Services Bibliothèque publique de Pointe-Claire Pointe Claire Public Library 100 Douglas S

Re: One more question: RDA development tracking

2008-03-03 Thread Karen Schneider
That sounds right on track -- and you are right about the audience. This is for practitioners who want practical "what's in it for me, what changes, what do I have to do, when is it happening, what exactly do I need to do to incorporate these changes in my library's practices, what should I watch o

Re: One more question: RDA development tracking

2008-03-03 Thread Marjorie Bloss
Greetings, Karen and everyone. No need to retreat to your corner, Karen. That's an excellent idea. We do need something that can be distributed to you -- especially now that the pieces are beginning to come together. Of course we have internal documents that are used by the CoP, JSC, and Co

Re: GLBTRT Task Force on RDA and Gender in Authority Records

2008-03-03 Thread Barbara B Tillett
Just a quick note - gender as an element comes from FRAD and the French (and other countries') requirement of this element in their national authority records. Although a decision has not yet been made for LC or PCC, I would be very surprised if we decided to add this element. It should be opt

One more question: RDA development tracking

2008-03-03 Thread Karen Schneider
One more question. I'm tracking RDA for my organization and reporting back key developments, any known timelines and deadlines that are available, vendor actions, FRBR, the DC working group, etc. Before I reinvent the wheel, is there any one spot that is already consolidating this information? (Th

Re: GLBTRT Task Force on RDA and Gender in Authority Reco rds

2008-03-03 Thread Mike Tribby
In reference to including gender in authority records, Barbara B Tillett posted: "It should be optional in RDA" But will it be? It strikes me that this is an ongoing problem with RDA as it is presently being crafted-- it's supposed to be all-encompassing for nearly everybody in every "metadata com

Re: One more question: RDA development tracking

2008-03-03 Thread Harden, Jean
Try http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/jsc/rda.html This doubtless doesn't have everything you need (for instance, I don't believe it has any vendor information, by which I presume you mean ILS vendors), but it has a lot. Jean Harden, Music Catalog Librarian Libraries University of North Texas

Re: GLBTRT Task Force on RDA and Gender in Authority Records

2008-03-03 Thread Karen Schneider
> even under RDA. I'm pretty sure most of our users would > consider 4 categories more than adequate, if they were ever > confronted with them... That in a nutshell is a big part of the problem. Providing just four gender categories is itself a statement about gender. I came to this discussion e

Re: GLBTRT Task Force on RDA and Gender in Authority Records

2008-03-03 Thread Nancy Brown
And of course we can continue to include such information in a 670 when known and it seems likely to be helpful in distinguishing one author from another. I can understand that users might like to be able to limit searches by such information but I really don't think that we should be in the busi

Re: GLBTRT Task Force on RDA and Gender in Authority Records

2008-03-03 Thread Christi Underdown
>It seem strange to me that JSC says it wants to make RDA more international by including this element, but is giving up the >international ISBD including its Latin abbreviations. How is including gender making RDA more /international? /And yes, Adam, if we include gender, we should also include

Non roman "language of the catalogue"

2008-03-03 Thread J. McRee Elrod
I wonder if JSC has considered that in catalogues with a non roman language of the catalogue, records for western materials would have to be in two scripts in order to use the "language of the catalogue" for inclusions? For our Hong Kong and Tokyo occasional customers (for whom we use ISBD Latin a

Re: GLBTRT Task Force on RDA and Gender in Authority Records

2008-03-03 Thread J. McRee Elrod
>How is including gender making RDA more /international? Evidently German and French records include that data element because it determines the gramatical forms used in conjuction with the name. Perhaps "Where languge of the catalogue needs gender ...?" __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod ([E