Re: [RDA-L] Parallel Title Proper RDA 2.3.3

2010-10-11 Thread Mark Ehlert
J. McRee Elrod wrote: > John Attig said: > >>In this case, there is an LC Policy Statement that says that the >>Parallel Title Proper is core for LC. > > On the other hand, CONSER would have parallel title recorded in 246 > rather than 245 =$b.  We record it in both 245 =$b and 246, but remove > i

Re: [RDA-L] Parallel Title Proper RDA 2.3.3

2010-10-11 Thread J. McRee Elrod
John Attig said: >In this case, there is an LC Policy Statement that says that the >Parallel Title Proper is core for LC. On the other hand, CONSER would have parallel title recorded in 246 rather than 245 =$b. We record it in both 245 =$b and 246, but remove it from 245 on export for one cl

Re: [RDA-L] Parallel Title Proper RDA 2.3.3

2010-10-11 Thread Adam L. Schiff
Local or cooperative group policy? But limiting their transcription is, I think, a disservice to users. They should be able to retrieve a work by any parallel title that they happen to know. Adam ^^ Adam L. Schiff Principal Cataloger University of Washingt

Re: [RDA-L] Parallel Title Proper RDA 2.3.3

2010-10-11 Thread Mike Tribby
>Beyond the core elements, I would assume that anything is optional -- or at >least subject to an application decision at some level. Hmmm. Thanks for the clarification, John. I think my records for the test just got a lot shorter. Mike Tribby Senior Cataloger Quality Books Inc. The Best of

Re: [RDA-L] Parallel Title Proper RDA 2.3.3

2010-10-11 Thread John Attig
The Parallel Title Proper is not a core element. Therefore, I would say that the recording of some or all of them is an application decision that needs to be made. This application decision can be made through a national decision, an institutional decision, or by individual catalogers. In th

Re: [RDA-L] Parallel Title Proper RDA 2.3.3

2010-10-11 Thread Diane I. Hillmann
It seems to me that the assumption here that the textual guidance (rules) are the place for these kinds of decisions, and that they should necessarily apply to everyone is something we should be looking closely at. In fact, if we're no longer thinking of catalog cards as our preferred 'format

Re: [RDA-L] Parallel Title Proper RDA 2.3.3

2010-10-11 Thread Arakawa, Steven
And, since the parallel titles proper can be taken from anywhere on the resource, I can imagine this being an occasional problem with the publications of international bodies. Maybe there will be an amendment or LCPS revision following testing if enough people catalog UN publications. -Ori

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Questions

2010-10-11 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
On the topic of data formats for dates, it looks like MARC authority records in the RDA test are also carrying the RDA date elements in ISO 8601 format as the default in 046 subfields: RDA Test authority record for Coleridge, Samuel Taylor, 1772-1834 has: 046 __ |f 17721020 |g 18340725 100 1_ |

Re: [RDA-L] Parallel Title Proper RDA 2.3.3

2010-10-11 Thread Mark Ehlert
Steven Arakawa wrote: > Is there no cataloger option to limit the number of parallel titles proper > to transcribe? No, there is none--probably goes against the principle of representation or some such. The LCPS on parallel titles proper merely turns the thing into a core element, with no limita

[RDA-L] Parallel Title Proper RDA 2.3.3

2010-10-11 Thread Arakawa, Steven
Is there no cataloger option to limit the number of parallel titles proper to transcribe? Steven Arakawa Catalog Librarian for Training & Documentation Catalog & Metadata Services, SML, Yale University P.O. Box 208240 New Haven, CT 06520-8240 (203)432-8286 steven.arak...@yale.edu

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Questions

2010-10-11 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
Karen Coyle schrieb: ... RDA purports to be "format neutral" but in fact it is "format hostile" because it forces certain displays (the famed "p." v. > "pages") that not only do not acknowledge that the data should be > meaningfully encoded for machine processing, but the use of language > te

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Questions

2010-10-11 Thread Karen Coyle
Quoting Mike Tribby : How does open-ended instruction on just how to note birth and death dates achieve the interchangeability and all-important granularity that RDA is purported to advance? Cataloging rules do not achieve interchangeability, no matter how precise and no matter how much