Re: [RDA-L] Card catalogue lessons

2012-03-19 Thread Daniel CannCasciato
Thomas Brenndorfer wrote in part: > so > there will be a time when cataloger effort will go into maximizing the > capabilities and efficiencies of all current and upcoming systems. I hope he is correct, but I what I hear from the budget end of the world (it remains a fairly apocalyptic discuss

[RDA-L] Documents posted to JSC web site

2012-03-19 Thread Kuhagen, Judith
Three categories of documents have been posted recently to the JSC web site (http://www.rda-jsc.org/): (1) Revisions and responses by JSC constituencies to 2011 JSC proposals not posted earlier: 6JSC/ALA/4/rev/ACOC response 6JSC/ALA/4/rev/LC response 6JSC/CCC/3/rev/ACOC response 6JSC/CCC/4/r

Re: [RDA-L] Card catalogue lessons

2012-03-19 Thread James Weinheimer
On 19/03/2012 17:30, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: Legacy data is always a problem. But if we never start doing different, we'll never have any different. If you start adding additinal info (like relator codes), there may be a reason to not have the UI expose it until a certain percentage of you

Re: [RDA-L] Card catalogue lessons

2012-03-19 Thread Mike Tribby
"Legacy data is always a problem. But if we never start doing different, we'll never have any different. If you start adding additinal info (like relator codes), there may be a reason to not have the UI expose it until a certain percentage of your data is so 'enhanced'. There can be automated a

Re: [RDA-L] Card catalogue lessons

2012-03-19 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Legacy data is always a problem. But if we never start doing different, we'll never have any different. If you start adding additinal info (like relator codes), there may be a reason to not have the UI expose it until a certain percentage of your data is so 'enhanced'. There can be automated

Re: [RDA-L] Card catalogue lessons

2012-03-19 Thread James Weinheimer
On 19/03/2012 15:24, Mike Tribby wrote: On 3/17/2012 6:42 AM, James Weinheimer wrote: Why is the local catalog definitely not the correct tool here? Because of a few facts: There is LCRI 21.0D where it is stipulated that LC will not put in relator codes. They are also not required in BIBCO. J

Re: [RDA-L] Card catalogue lessons

2012-03-19 Thread Mike Tribby
"In addition to the RDA elements in the 3XX fields, the RDA relationship designators are being added to the 5XX fields. But the relationships are not new information, as that very same information is in a 678 free text field. It's all about making data more machine-actionable, so that functionali

Re: [RDA-L] Card catalogue lessons

2012-03-19 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
> -Original Message- > From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Mike Tribby > Sent: March 19, 2012 10:25 AM > To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Card catalogue lessons > > >On 3/17/2012

Re: [RDA-L] Card catalogue lessons

2012-03-19 Thread Mike Tribby
>On 3/17/2012 6:42 AM, James Weinheimer wrote: >Why is the local catalog definitely not the correct tool here? Because of a >few facts: There is LCRI 21.0D where it is stipulated that LC will not put in >relator codes. They are also not required in BIBCO. Jonathan Rochkind responded: >>This is a

Re: [RDA-L] Card catalogue lessons

2012-03-19 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 3/17/2012 6:42 AM, James Weinheimer wrote: Why is the local catalog definitely not the correct tool here? Because of a few facts: There is LCRI 21.0D where it is stipulated that LC will not put in relator codes. They are also not required in BIBCO. This is awfully circular. You started out

Re: [RDA-L] Card catalogue lessons

2012-03-19 Thread James Weinheimer
On 17/03/2012 15:17, Brenndorfer, Thomas wrote: Why is the local catalog definitely not the correct tool here? Catalogers go to great lengths to record the very same data as in relationship designators in the form of notes and statements in the record. That's the whole "justify the added entr