[RDA-L] Fields 344-347

2013-04-12 Thread John Williams
The JSC/RDA Complete examples (http://www.rdatoolkit.org/sites/default/files/6jsc_rda_complete_examples_bi bliographic_apr0913_rev.pdf) has: Sound characteristics344 ## $a digital $b optical $g surround $h Dolby digital 5.1 Video characteristics 346 ##

Re: [RDA-L] Retrospective conversion of data

2013-04-12 Thread Sandra Knapp
Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA writes: Are any libraries converting their existing data to RDA format and how are they doing this? Thanks, Tony Hello, We have limited conversion to records with a publishing date of

[RDA-L] RDA CIP

2013-04-12 Thread Ian Fairclough
RDA-L readers, Sometimes CIP for a previous edition is printed. In such cases you can take pertinent data, such as the LCCN (which is invalid, and should be coded so using subfield z, but is nevertheless usable as a search key) and include it in the record for the book in hand.  Once I had a

Re: [RDA-L] Retrospective conversion of data

2013-04-12 Thread Adger Williams
Chris, We are a small to medium academic library. (4.5 FTE in cataloguing with monthly receipts of around 1,000 items.) We will have a hybrid catalog, accepting RDA input and copy-cataloguing it according to RDA rules or AACR2 input and cataloguing it according to AACR2 rules, but

Re: [RDA-L] RDA CIP

2013-04-12 Thread Joan Wang
Honestly, I never have thought about that CIP is a reliable source. But maybe I am wrong. Since Ian mentioned translation, I have a Chinese translation joke. I have done several Chinese books for the Lincoln Presidential Library. These books all are thread-bound. One of matched OCLC records showed

Re: [RDA-L] Retrospective conversion of data

2013-04-12 Thread Fox, Chris
I hate to keep bugging you, Gary, but what kind of automated tools and program[s] do you have to do this? I'm just wondering if there's any possibility of doing it here, or if I should just stick to my present policy of accepting RDA and AACR2 records for copy cataloging, and doing the

Re: [RDA-L] RDA CIP

2013-04-12 Thread Cindy Wolff
Isn't CIP data transfer supposed to be part of the automation in this process, especially from a bibframe perspective? Cindy Wolff Honestly, I never have thought about that CIP is a reliable source. But maybe I am wrong. Since Ian mentioned translation, I have a Chinese translation joke. I

Re: [RDA-L] RDA CIP

2013-04-12 Thread Reser, Dave
Dear Michael, I believe this is the LC-PCC PS you are looking for (2.2.2.1): LC practice/PCC practice: Do not consider pre-publication cataloging data (foreign or domestic) appearing in the item as a source of information for transcribed elements. (note the emphasis on *transcribed*

Re: [RDA-L] Retrospective conversion of data

2013-04-12 Thread Gary L Strawn
For the retrospective stuff, I haven't yet written the program, just thought about it. When it's written, such a program will consist of various bits (generation of 33X fields, spelling-out of abbreviations) that have been thoroughly tested through use over something like a year. I have

Re: [RDA-L] CIP

2013-04-12 Thread Michael Cohen
Thank you! LC-PCC PS 2.2.2.1: LC practice/PCC practice: Do not consider pre-publication cataloging data (foreign or domestic) appearing in the item as a source of information for transcribed elements. On 4/12/2013 7:29 AM, Collins, Kali wrote: See LC PCC PS for 2.2.2.1 (General guidelines)

Re: [RDA-L] Retrospective conversion of data

2013-04-12 Thread Dykas, Felicity A.
We have III Millennium and are using the global update function to make some changes. It is find and replace, so we can't do anything sophisticated. So far, we have just run the algorithm when we are making other changes to a set of records. I want to add some additional find and replace

Re: [RDA-L] statement of function (distributors)

2013-04-12 Thread Joan Wang
The optional addition in 2.9.4.4 like [distributor] is also not necessary if we use 264 fields. The same thing is for manufacture statement. A related thing is if 264 fields can be appropriately displayed in OPACs. If the answer is yes. the rule for statement of function for distribution and

[RDA-L] Unnumbered page in a 504 note

2013-04-12 Thread Dana Van Meter
Hello. I've rooted around RDA several times trying to find an answer to this question and I can't find one anywhere. Is there any direction anywhere in RDA or in the policy statements that tell you what to do when you are noting that bibliographical references are present and are noting the page

Re: [RDA-L] Unnumbered page in a 504 note

2013-04-12 Thread Gene Fieg
I don't use square brackets unless the numbers are only implied. If they are stated I put them in parentheses. However, if they are truly footnotes, I do not add page numbers. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Dana Van Meter vanme...@ias.edu wrote: ** Hello. I’ve rooted around RDA several

[RDA-L] Use of square brackets for supplied imprint statements

2013-04-12 Thread Ian Fairclough
RDA-L readers, In my earlier post I deliberately began with please assume for the sake of argument.  That is because I realised that some readers would find it hard to accept the RDA formulation, encoded with ISBD punctuation, on account of its wordiness plus the likelihood that some headway

Re: [RDA-L] Unnumbered page in a 504 note

2013-04-12 Thread Joan Wang
My understanding is 504 fields are a recorded element. The data does not have to exactly represent the resource itself. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Dana Van Meter vanme...@ias.edu wrote: ** Hello. I’ve rooted around RDA several times

Re: [RDA-L] Unnumbered page in a 504 note

2013-04-12 Thread Cronquist, Michelle J
You'd omit the brackets, according to LC-PSS 1.7.1, which says Do not use square brackets in notes except when they are used in quoted data, and gives this example: 500http://desktop.loc.gov/saved/Mabibl_500 ## $aTypes of prayer wheels found in south central Tibet, by Mei Lin: pages 310-375.

Re: [RDA-L] Unnumbered page in a 504 note

2013-04-12 Thread Schroeder, Elizabeth E.
Try looking at LC-PCC PS 1.7.1, the section called Punctuation in Notes: 3. Square brackets. Do not use square brackets in notes except when they are used in quoted data. The examples demonstrate use of unbracketed numbers that do not appear in the resource. Hope this helps, Lizzy Elizabeth

[RDA-L] Revised printing

2013-04-12 Thread Joseph, Angelina
Hello All: I don't know if this was discussed on this list before, but I would like to know if a title is just a revised printing and has a revised printing date on it and everything else is the same as the original version, should it warrant a new bibliographic record? The contents,

Re: [RDA-L] Unnumbered page in a 504 note

2013-04-12 Thread Dana Van Meter
Thanks everyone. I did see rule 1.7.1 at some point in my RDA travels, and then forgot about it. I agree that it probably should apply in the case of the 504. I hate that cataloging in RDA feels like assembling a puzzle every single time. I wish that one didn't have to jump to all over the

[RDA-L] 245 $c and [ ]

2013-04-12 Thread Hinchcliff, Marilou
Re this 245 $c: Serenade for guitar with optional percussion : ǂb guitar tablature / ǂc Lou Harrison ; guitar tablature transcribed by Ray Andrews. In the score that I have, everything up through and including the composer’s name is taken from the title page; the phrase “guitar tablature

Re: [RDA-L] 245 $c and [ ]

2013-04-12 Thread Joan Wang
Do not have to put square brackets because the statement is not from a source outside the resource itself. Yes. You are right. Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Hinchcliff, Marilou mhinc...@bloomu.eduwrote: Re this 245 $c: ** ** Serenade for

Re: [RDA-L] Revised printing

2013-04-12 Thread Michael Borries
I would have to check the piece itself to be sure, but I would suppose that revised printing date meant that there had been revisions, even if these do not appear to be obvious. In that case, I would create a new record. If I am the reader, I want to know if there are differences between the

Re: [RDA-L] 245 $c and [ ]

2013-04-12 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Marilou Hinchcliff asked: Am I right to omit the [ ] around “guitar tablature transcribed by Ray Andrews”? Yes. The data is from within the resource. Np brackets needed. __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) {__ | / Special Libraries Cataloguing