Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-28 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Kyle Felix asked: >I want to know what relator term I should use for the chair of a committee. In the one alphabetical list of relators in the MRIs created by merging the various lists in RDA, "chairperson" is included. Michael Gorman and I must have found it in RDA? We square bracketed those t

[RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-28 Thread Felix, Kyley
I want to know what relator term I should use for the chair of a committee. The term "chair" is not in the RDA toolkit's list of relationship designators. Does anybody have any suggestions, please? Many thanks. Kyley Felix Librarian Parliamentary Library Parliament House Harvest Tce Perth WA 60

[RDA-L] Bibliographic 380

2013-08-28 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Thank you Thomas for letting me know that 380 may be used in bibliographic records. (One cataloguer reports seeing them in some records for Blu-rays.) We don't want to use it if redundant with data in other fields, particularly 33X. We depend on 008/33 letter codes (added to MARC21 from CanMARC)

Re: [RDA-L] dtst and dates

2013-08-28 Thread Trina Pundurs
Hi Gary, On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Gary Oliver wrote: [...] > I have an item that has a copyright statement, which includes the > copyright date (1984) and a publication statement, but no publication date. > 2.8.6.6 says to supply the date or approximate date of publication. > There i

Re: [RDA-L] Content/Media/Carrier Types - Video Games

2013-08-28 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
MARC Bibliographic has Form of Work as well... http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd380.html Many work and expression elements are now found in both bibliographic and authority records. While computer file-based resources in MARC are required to have either LDR/06=m or 006/00=m, that corr

Re: [RDA-L] dtst and dates

2013-08-28 Thread J. McRee Elrod
I said: > 008/06 = d, 008/07-10 = 1984. Sorry, that's a typo. Date type should be "s". The same year in dates one and two (with the exception of conitnuing resources which last only one year) is not helpful I think. __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca) {__ | / Specia

Re: [RDA-L] Content/Media/Carrier Types - Video Games

2013-08-28 Thread J. McRee Elrod
I said in response to Thomas: >>The records also clarify that 380 Form of Work is used for "Video >>games." > >According to MARC21, 380 is an authority field. Are you saying we >should use it in bibliographic records? I should have posted the 380 link: http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ad380.ht

Re: [RDA-L] dtst and dates

2013-08-28 Thread Gene Fieg
you wouldn't use "s"? d = dead serial On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:08 PM, J. McRee Elrod wrote: > Gary Oliver asked: > >I have an item that has a copyright statement, which includes > >the copyright date (1984) > > Use 264 1 $c[1984] > > We add 264 4 $c only if the year differs from that in 264

Re: [RDA-L] dtst and dates

2013-08-28 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Gary Oliver asked: >I have an item that has a copyright statement, which includes >the copyright date (1984) Use 264 1 $c[1984] We add 264 4 $c only if the year differs from that in 264 1 $c; having the same year twice would look strange to patrons it seems to me. >How would the relevant 0

Re: [RDA-L] Content/Media/Carrier Types - Video Games

2013-08-28 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Thomas said: >For LDR/06=m, the preference is to use it in case of doubt, but to >prefer another code for Type of Record if the aspect brought out >(language material, music, moving image) is most significant. RDA >tilts towards two-dimensional moving image as the significant aspect >for video gam

Re: [RDA-L] Content/Media/Carrier Types - Video Games

2013-08-28 Thread Joan Wang
Thanks. Thomas. I have not gone through your responses. But I notice that you mentioned 380 form of work. It is possible to give some instructions about the use of 380 field in bibliographic records? I mean in what situations we should use 380 fields. Many thanks for that in advance. Joan Wang I

Re: [RDA-L] Content/Media/Carrier Types - Video Games

2013-08-28 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
The two RDA examples for video games on this page are informative: http://www.loc.gov/catworkshop/RDA%20training%20materials/SCT%20RDA%20Records%20TG/ While LDR/06=m is used, treating the video games as a computer file record type, that is not reflected exactly in the 336 Content Types. Both re

[RDA-L] dtst and dates

2013-08-28 Thread Gary Oliver
I am an RDA neophyte, so please bear with me. In addition to the Toolkit and JSC examples, I was searching the archives for guidance on dtst and subfield c of the 264 and found this email. I have an item that has a copyright statement, which includes the copyright date (1984) and a publicatio

[RDA-L] follow up to 378$q correction

2013-08-28 Thread Corey O'Halloran
In the example it should be 378$qJohn S.   corey

[RDA-L] initials in 378 $q

2013-08-28 Thread Corey O'Halloran
Hi,   I'm wondering if it's good practice to add initials for personal names in 378$q.   For example,   100  $aJohnson, John,$d1886-1962 378  $aJohn S. 670  $aApples and oranges, 2012:$bcover (John S. Johnson)   In this case the initial for the author was discovered long after the heading was esta

Re: [RDA-L] Content/Media/Carrier Types - Video Games

2013-08-28 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Katrina Gormley asked: >What Content/Media/Carrier Types are people using for Video games 336 $acomputer program$2rdacontent 336 $atwo-dimensional moving image$2rdacontent* 336 $aperformed music$2rdaconten * ** 336 $aspoken word$2rdacontnt** 336 $atext$2rdacontent** 336 $asounds$2rdaconte

Re: [RDA-L] Content/Media/Carrier Types - Video Games

2013-08-28 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
There are often other perceptions involved with individual content types, according to the RDA-ONIX Framework. The focus is on the intent for how the content is to be primarily perceived. There can be other incidentals with content type, including taking the content and using it in other ways th

Re: [RDA-L] Content/Media/Carrier Types - Video Games

2013-08-28 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
Respectfully, regarding "The Content Types "computer program" and "computer dataset" are different in that the primary processing of the content is done by computers. These would not be used if the content was created primarily for direct human perception..." doesn't really make sense to me.

Re: [RDA-L] Content/Media/Carrier Types - Video Games

2013-08-28 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
For Content Type, video games are listed under "two-dimensional moving image". Content Type refers to the primary human perception involved. For the authorized access point of the work, video games are treated like motion pictures, and are grouped under collaborative "moving image works" (RDA 6

[RDA-L] Content/Media/Carrier Types - Video Games

2013-08-28 Thread Katrina Gormley
I apologize if this has been covered. I searched the archives and didn't find it anywhere ... What Content/Media/Carrier Types are people using for Video games (xBox, wii, Playstation, etc.)? Content: Computer Program? Computer Program + two-dimensional moving image? I guess it surprises me

Re: [RDA-L] RDA in China

2013-08-28 Thread James Weinheimer
On 27/08/2013 21.51, Kai Li wrote: Hi everyone, I wrote a new blog post about RDA's developments in China in the past year (http://kaili.us/node/53), which I believe some of you may be interested in. I look forward to hearing your opinions about this post. Thanks for that. It may be intere