The key phrase noted by Joan is "they can not be separated semantically." I would use this rule when the title page reads: arranged for organ by ...
Ralph Ralph Hartsock Senior Music Cataloger University of North Texas Libraries E-mail: ralph.harts...@unt.edu<mailto:ralph.harts...@unt.edu> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Wang Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 3:21 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Quick question about RDA 2.4.1.8 "If a noun or noun phrase occurs with a statement of responsibility, treat the noun or noun phrase as part of the statement of responsibility." I would consider that such a noun or noun phrase should be something closely related to the statement of responsibility. That means that they can not be separated semantically. The noun or noun phrase is a part of the statement of responsibility. Without it, the meaning of the statement would not be complete. The case mentioned is a kind of loose. The noun, "a novel", could be in a subtitle. In such a situation, I would consider a solution that would benefit patrons more. Thanks. Joan On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Arakawa, Steven <steven.arak...@yale.edu<mailto:steven.arak...@yale.edu>> wrote: I think that is the intention. It was brought up as an RDA change from AACR2 at an early ALA pre-conference I attended. AACR2 1.1F12: "Treat a noun phrase occurring in conjunction with a statement of responsibility as other title information if it is indicative of the nature of the work." RDA 2.4.1.8<http://2.4.1.8>: "If a noun or noun phrase occurs with the statement of responsibility , treat the noun or noun phrase as part of the statement of responsibility." I later noticed that the second example in RDA 2.4.1.8 has "dramatised adaptations" as part of the statement of responsibility. AACR2 uses the same example and has "dramatised adaptations" as other title in 1.1F12. I also think that cataloger judgment is involved. RDA 2.3.4: "Other title information may include any phrase appearing with a title proper that is indicative of the character, contents, etc., of the resource or the motives for, or occasion of, its production, publication, etc." If you had Tome 1 / a novel by X, it is still a statement. If you had Tome 1 / novel X it really isn't a statement anymore, and it could be said that "novel" lacking a grammatical connection to "X" is an example of not occurring with the statement of responsibility. You still have the latitude to consider the noun phrase as indicative of the character, contents, etc. of the resource: Davy Jones : a pirate novel / by Y, not Davy Jones / a pirate novel by Y. Steven Arakawa Catalog Librarian for Training & Documentation Catalog & Metadata Services, SML, Yale University P.O. Box 208240 New Haven, CT 06520-8240 (203)432-8286<tel:%28203%29432-8286> steven.arak...@yale.edu<mailto:steven.arak...@yale.edu> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA>] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:24 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: [RDA-L] Quick question about RDA 2.4.1.8 RDA 2.4.1.8 reads, "If a noun or noun phrase occurs with a statement of responsibility, treat the noun or noun phrase as part of the statement of responsibility." Does this mean that if we had the following two title pages: Tome a novel John Smith Another Tome a novel by John Smith The phrase "a novel" would be considered subtitle (in the first example), but part of the statement of responsibility (in the second), solely depending on whether or not the word "by" was there? -- Benjamin Abrahamse Cataloging Coordinator Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems MIT Libraries 617-253-7137<tel:617-253-7137> -- Joan Wang Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
