Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

2012-04-03 Thread John Hostage
and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Tillett, Barbara Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:48 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion A word of caution on abandoning undifferentiated name

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2012-04-03 Thread Lasater, Mary Charles
itution take a much closer look at the expense of authority control. Mary Charles -Original Message- From: J. McRee Elrod [mailto:m...@slc.bc.ca] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:24 PM To: Lasater, Mary Charles Cc: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undif

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for

2012-04-03 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Mary Lasater said: >That is the NACO practice and has been for many years. We always add >the date, if known. However, we do not require or encourage the >cataloger to look for the date. Giving the date at the outset could save more cataloguer time down the troad than it would take to find it. I

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

2012-04-02 Thread Gene Fieg
hey > could collocate them until they had more concrete differentiating > information. - Barbara Tillett > > > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA ] *On > Behalf Of *Myers, John F. > *Sent:*

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

2012-04-02 Thread Diane Hillmann
Folks: I'm really glad to see some movement and discussion on this issue. I've been cranking for some time about how the changes in our environment really allow us to consider better options on undifferentiated names. The source of all the problems here is the dual use of name headings as both dis

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

2012-04-02 Thread Akerman, Laura
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Myers, John F. Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:56 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion In the main, the thrust of the discussion paper is an obvious im

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

2012-04-02 Thread Lasater, Mary Charles
nd Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 1:31 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion On 4/2/2012 2:23 PM,

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

2012-04-02 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rochkind Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 1:40 PM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion I am not a cat

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

2012-04-02 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 4/2/2012 2:23 PM, Jenifer K Marquardt wrote: Jonathan, Often there is good information concerning the person available on the item cataloged such as affiliaton with a particular institution, other titles published, or place of residence. While this information cannot be used to establish

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

2012-04-02 Thread Myers, John F.
Barbara Tillett wrote: A word of caution on abandoning undifferentiated names. When we were doing the regional IFLA meetings for the International Cataloguing Principles, the Chinese told me how glad they would be to have a capability to use undifferentiated names, as their cataloging code did

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

2012-04-02 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Behalf Of Myers, John F. Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:56 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion In the main, the thrust of the discussion paper is an obvious implication of the ideas in

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

2012-04-02 Thread Jenifer K Marquardt
urce Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] on behalf of Lasater, Mary Charles [mary.c.lasa...@vanderbilt.edu] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 1:48 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call

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2012-04-02 Thread Adam L. Schiff
Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Myers, John F. Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:56 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

2012-04-02 Thread Lasater, Mary Charles
2 12:40 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion I am not a cataloger, but something that's always confused me: Why do you need an 'authority record' at all for an 'undifferentiated name

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

2012-04-02 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
ating information. - Barbara Tillett *From:*Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Myers, John F. *Sent:* Monday, April 02, 2012 10:56 AM *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undiffer

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

2012-04-02 Thread Lasater, Mary Charles
Behalf Of Tillett, Barbara Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:48 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion A word of caution on abandoning undifferentiated names. When we were doing the regional IFLA meetings

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

2012-04-02 Thread Tillett, Barbara
V.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion In the main, the thrust of the discussion paper is an obvious implication of the ideas in FRAD and of the authority record changes in RDA. It is a necessary development as we move

Re: [RDA-L] Fwd: [RDA-L] Undifferentiated personal names: call for community discussion

2012-04-02 Thread Myers, John F.
In the main, the thrust of the discussion paper is an obvious implication of the ideas in FRAD and of the authority record changes in RDA. It is a necessary development as we move from construction of headings to creation of robust, element-configured authority records as the locus of establish