Re: [RDA-L] Radical proposal for RDA inclusions

2011-10-28 Thread Jim Weinheimer
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Bernhard Eversberg wrote: snip I see two big issues here (among many more lesser ones) that should not be taken too lightly: 1. MARC as input standard has made sure that it was (more or less) the same everywhere. Someone trained at X could go to work at Y

Re: [RDA-L] Radical proposal for RDA inclusions

2011-10-28 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
28.10.2011 11:00, Jim Weinheimer: Even catalogers don't work with the raw data format of MARC (don't worry. I won't begin my ISO2709 diatribe again!) but they are looking at a formatted display. Right, but the formal arrangement of the tags and elements takes nothing away from the accuracy

Re: [RDA-L] Radical proposal for RDA inclusions

2011-10-28 Thread J. McRee Elrod
James Weinheimer said in answer to Bernhard Eversberg: ...the display catalogers work with could easily show human-language explanations instead of numbers ... Perhaps not easily, given the ambiguity of language. Did you hear of the cataloguer who entered the person who gave the item to the

[RDA-L] Radical proposal for RDA inclusions

2011-10-27 Thread J. McRee Elrod
When I object that many of RDA's media terms (MARC 336-338) are obscure, I am told that they are codes, and will be replaced in individual OPAC displays by alternate terms or icons. Why not enter, for example, [s.n] as a code in 260$b, and have systems display [publisher not identified],

Re: [RDA-L] Radical proposal for RDA inclusions

2011-10-27 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:43 AM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: [RDA-L] Radical proposal for RDA inclusions When I object that many

Re: [RDA-L] Radical proposal for RDA inclusions

2011-10-27 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
27.10.2011 19:09, James Weinheimer: On 27/10/2011 17:42, J. McRee Elrod wrote: snip Why not enter, for example, [s.n] as a code in 260$b, and have systems display [publisher not identified], [editeur non identified], [Verlag nicht identifiziert], [chuban shang meiyou queding], etc., based on