[RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body

2013-05-13 Thread Joan Wang
Hi, all I have two questions about authorized access points for person/family/corporate body. Q1: RDA 18.3 says that creator is a core element. If there is more than one, only the principle or the first-named creator is required. It also says that other person/family/corporate body associated wi

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body

2013-05-13 Thread Arthur Liu
Hi Joan, Regarding Q2, I think if the dates of birth/death are not needed to distinguish the person (and therefore not included in the *authorized access point* element), the dates would still be recorded as a separate element (e.g. MARC 046). -Arthur Liu On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Joa

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body

2013-05-13 Thread Joan Wang
Hi, Liu So it does not have to appear in 100/700 fields if it is not needed to distinguish...But it will be encoded in 046 field as a core element. Right? Thank you. Joan On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Arthur Liu wrote: > Hi Joan, > > Regarding Q2, I think if the dates of birth/death are

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body

2013-05-13 Thread Arthur Liu
Hi Joan, That's my understanding, yes. (I'm a recently finished MLS student, so take this with a grain of salt.) Also, note that the associated LC-PCC PS for 9.19.1.3 says to add the dates to all new authority records even if not needed to distinguish (in other words, apply the option). -Arthur

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body

2013-05-13 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
s point for the movie. Thomas Brenndorfer Guelph Public Library >From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access >[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Wang >Sent: May-13-13 1:21 PM >To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA >Subject: [RDA

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body

2013-05-13 Thread Joan Wang
Thanks a lot. Arthur. Joan On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Arthur Liu wrote: > Hi Joan, > > That's my understanding, yes. (I'm a recently finished MLS student, so > take this with a grain of salt.) > > Also, note that the associated LC-PCC PS for 9.19.1.3 says to add the > dates to all new a

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body

2013-05-13 Thread Joan Wang
e authorized access point for the movie. > > > Thomas Brenndorfer > Guelph Public Library > > > > >From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Wang > >Sent: May-13-13 1:21 PM > &g

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body

2013-05-13 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
  > -Original Message- > From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Brenndorfer, > Thomas > Sent: May-13-13 2:01 PM > To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > Subject: Re: [RDA-L] author

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body

2013-05-13 Thread Adam L. Schiff
ized access point for the movie. Thomas Brenndorfer Guelph Public Library From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Wang Sent: May-13-13 1:21 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] authorized a

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body

2013-05-13 Thread Joan Wang
ovie, there may be several people that >> fall under the element "Other Person, Family or Corporate Body Associated >> with the Work" but not a single one of them becomes a core element because >> none of them are used to form the authorized access point for the movie. >&g

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body

2013-05-13 Thread Joan Wang
image >>> work are not core elements. >>> >>> In other words, in the case of a movie, there may be several people that >>> fall under the element "Other Person, Family or Corporate Body Associated >>> with the Work" but not a single one of t

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body

2013-05-13 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body Sorry. The question should be: any examples under this rule for a corporate body considered to be a creator? I try to understand the rule. d) Works that result from the collective ac

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body

2013-05-13 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Arthur cited the LC/PCC PS: >Also, note that the associated LC-PCC PS for 9.19.1.3 says to add the dates >to all new authority records even if not needed to distinguish (in other >words, apply the option). Very wise. How is the cataloguer to know if another author with the same name will apper la

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body

2013-05-13 Thread Leigh, Andrea
Schiff Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 2:19 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body Thomas, What you said about films is not quite totally correct. Appendix I does have a relationship designator under creator of work: filmm

Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/family/corporate body

2013-05-13 Thread Adam L. Schiff
own -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 2:19 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] authorized access point for person/f