Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC compliant solar labels

2008-11-21 Thread jay peltz
Hi Joel, I believe AEE sells them as well, jay peltz power On Nov 21, 2008, at 12:42 PM, Joel Davidson wrote: Tyco makes solar labels. See www.tycoelectronics.com/AboutUs/news/getpdf.asp?id=1363&f=solar_labels_flyer_final.pdf At least one reseller offers the labels. See http://store.altene

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Rating of Disconnects

2008-11-21 Thread Peter Parrish
The only thing I am aware of wrt to fused DC discos is the notion that PV runs that penetrate a building shell need over current protection. The City of Santa Monica used to (and may still) have this requirement. The (non) issues as I understand them: (1) PV modules should be treated as a

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC compliant solar labels

2008-11-21 Thread Geoff Greenfield
Ahhh yes... I love this NEC signage requirement.  It goes a long way toward re-assuring inspectors and others that the inverter does a reliable job disconnecting if the grid goes down.  I will put this at the top of my 690 improvement list. Along the same lines: we oughta sell lightbulb ba

[RE-wrenches] NEC compliant solar labels

2008-11-21 Thread Joel Davidson
Tyco makes solar labels. See www.tycoelectronics.com/AboutUs/news/getpdf.asp?id=1363&f=solar_labels_flyer_final.pdf   At least one reseller offers the labels. See http://store.altenergystore.com/Enclosures-Electrical-and-Safety/NEC-Compliant-Safety-Labels/NEC-Compliant-Grid-Tie-Safety-Labels/p661

Re: [RE-wrenches] grid-tie inverters & generators

2008-11-21 Thread I2P
In a message dated 11/20/2008 9:57:54 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It opens when the genny is on) might be easier than a NO relay on the grid-side. Anyone do it this way? Kelly, I would do this and sleep at night. Don **One site has it all. Your

[RE-wrenches] DC Rating of Disconnects

2008-11-21 Thread Jeff Blick
the real-time voltage difference in a 240 V AC system can be 41% greater than 240 V. In any event, any Code-compliant solutions would be greatly appreciated. - Peter Peter T. Parrish, President -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Rating of Disconnects

2008-11-21 Thread ASAP POWER! 2
In 2008, we have had to replace our standard Sq. D HU361RB used since our beginnings, with the Sq. D H361RB (U stands for unfused). Was there some sort of code change NEC or CBC maybe that made most jurisdictions in So Cal suddenly start requiring fused DC disconnects? Typically, we fill the fus

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Rating of Disconnects

2008-11-21 Thread Peter Parrish
Yes we have T-corrected the Voc. One of the nice things we have going for us in the LA area, is the moderating influence of the ocean. 90% + of our systems never see record cold temperatures below 14 def F. You are correct about the Vdc rising upon disconnection (from Vmp to Voc) and DC arcs be

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Rating of Disconnects

2008-11-21 Thread William Miller
Peter: I am resending, the first version inexplicably deleted some text: An arc is created in the process of disconnecting any current under load. DC circuits have an enhanced ability to sustain that arc. PV circuits exacerbate this problem as a short or load is disconnected because they ca

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Rating of Disconnects

2008-11-21 Thread William Miller
Peter: An arc is created in the process of disconnecting any current under load. DC circuits have an enhanced ability to sustain that arc. PV circuits exacerbate this problem as a short or load is disconnected because they can sustain a short but the voltage rises drastically as a circuit is

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Rating of Disconnects

2008-11-21 Thread Kent Osterberg
Peter, Many general duty safety switches, such as the Siemens GNF321R, are rated for 250 volts dc. They usually require the use of two switch poles. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar Peter Parrish wrote: Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President California Solar Engineering, Inc. 820 Cynt

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC Rating of Disconnects

2008-11-21 Thread Peter Parrish
Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President California Solar Engineering, Inc. 820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065 Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885 CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ From: Peter Parrish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Frida

Re: [RE-wrenches] box fill calcs

2008-11-21 Thread Carl Hansen
I believe you would just determine the size of the J-Box based on the largest sized conduit entering and leaving the box. Code: 314.28 A 1&2 Carl Hansen___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options

Re: [RE-wrenches] box fill calcs

2008-11-21 Thread Drake Chamberlin
At 05:40 AM 11/21/2008, you wrote: I brought this subject up in class. Chuck says he doesn't think there's anything in the code about it. the closest thing I could come up with was clamps -- so you'd relate it to the largest conductor in the box. But I'm a baby too. i like over sized boxes. db

Re: [RE-wrenches] box fill calcs

2008-11-21 Thread Cvsolar2
I brought this subject up in class. Chuck says he doesn't think there's anything in the code about it. the closest thing I could come up with was clamps -- so you'd relate it to the largest conductor in the box. But I'm a baby too. i like over sized boxes. db Dan Brown President Foxfire Energy

Re: [RE-wrenches] Shoes

2008-11-21 Thread mark
The Amish builders in our area swear by "Faded Glory" from Walmart.  Cheap in price and best for traction, especially on steel roofs.   Mark   Original Message Subject: [RE-wrenches] ShoesFrom: "Mark Frye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Thu, November 20, 2008 4:29 pmTo: "'RE-wrenches'"

Re: [RE-wrenches] grid-tie inverters & generators

2008-11-21 Thread Tump
How close is the transfer panel from the main panel? If the distance is not to far then actuate the relay (nc) from the generator source NOT the utility. Generator running the relay is opened, only need to switch one leg of the SMA stuff as the reduced input voltage would keep it from connecting.