[RE-wrenches] Professional conduct

2009-02-05 Thread William Miller
Colleagues: Of course, this dilemma has probably existed since the Romans bid on the first chariot. You need to present a design to the client to prove you have a plan in order to sell the job, but you can not prevent the client from using your design to shop contractors. There is not a lot

Re: [RE-wrenches] Professional conduct

2009-02-05 Thread Bill Loesch
More power to you, William. There is no question in my mind that this is one reason you are successful. Your comments should be required reading. Bill Loesch Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar 314 631 1094 If the client does not understand the ethics involved, or is not ethical, I'd just as soon not

Re: [RE-wrenches] Professional conduct

2009-02-05 Thread Wind-sun.com
We are seeing far more of this in the past 2-3 years, especially for off grid systems. It seems like very few of these new startup bandwagon places have even a remote clue as to how to size battery based systems. I would guess that half of our tech support calls come from people that bought

Re: [RE-wrenches] Professional conduct

2009-02-05 Thread Todd Cory
Unfortunately, this seems more and more like the fiasco created by the DHW credits 25 years ago. Sadly, this is what I expected and why I am opposed to incentive programs. Most people have no clue about energy or resource depletion issues. For example, I was contacted by a group that runs the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Professional conduct

2009-02-05 Thread Wind-sun.com
Unfortunately Todd, it seems that even among the Wrenches we are in the minority. It was not too long ago that the list was filled with posts to call your congress critter to pass the solar stimulus bill. Too bad that so few people recall what happened the last time the government had large

[RE-wrenches] Bidding conduct

2009-02-05 Thread Dana
I no longer give folks a laundry list. I spec. a System price and do not provide a breakdown unless paid in advance for the list so at least I get paid for my efforts. When folks whine over the lack of information I over the list at a price and I question their concern [shopping]. I also do

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wanted: poly battery boxes, many sizes

2009-02-05 Thread Karl Schwingel
I've used (mostly in 3rd world installations) the Contico pro tuffbin for batteries. they're almost sealed (not gasketed) structural foam boxes, will hold 4 L-16 equivalents, and are about $60 each. the only downside is that the sides are slightly tapered toward the bottom, and as such need

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wanted: poly battery boxes, many sizes

2009-02-05 Thread Karl Schwingel
been out of the country for a week. should read all the posts before replying. great minds think alike. Just put in one bin in the boonies of Haiti. holding 4 trojan 90 ah gel cells, with a DR 1512 bolted to the top of the bin, and all charge controllers and LVDs bolted to the inside of

[RE-wrenches] SS Tek Crews

2009-02-05 Thread Peter Parrish
Does anyone have a source for stainless steel, self tapping Tek screws? I could use some #10/3-4 and #10/1-1/2. If they have the little cap and neoprene washer that would be even better! - Peter Peter T. Parrish, President California Solar Engineering, Inc. 820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA

Re: [RE-wrenches] SS Tek Crews

2009-02-05 Thread Karl Schwingel
I get self drillers from fastenal. self drilling 400 series stainless with a washer head. no neoprene alas karl Peter Parrish wrote: Does anyone have a source for stainless steel, self tapping Tek screws? I could use some #10/3-4 and #10/1-1/2. If they have the little cap and neoprene

Re: [RE-wrenches] Professional conduct

2009-02-05 Thread Joel Davidson
This is how I deal with full disclosure. Several years ago, I took the Dale Carnegie Sales Course. (To be a sales professional, you need training and the DCSC has my highest recommendation.) Step 3 in the 5-step DCSC selling process states, Give your prospects enough facts, and no more, about

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charge Controllers with greater than 150 V input

2009-02-05 Thread jay peltz
Hi Peter, Apollo makes a high voltage 200VOC unit, 80 amps. And the Classic from Midnight is almost ready to come out if I hear it right. jay peltz power On Feb 5, 2009, at 5:23 PM, Peter Parrish wrote: I seem to remember mention a while ago of a quality charge controller that supports

Re: [RE-wrenches] Professional conduct

2009-02-05 Thread Jeff Yago
Well said Joel, so lets close this issue out and go deal with the other dangers out there lurking unseen in this fast changing solar market. Jeff YagoNetscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Professional conduct

2009-02-05 Thread William Miller
Joel: Shoot. I guess this means I gotta write a book... William At 03:43 PM 2/5/2009, you wrote: parts list, I ask them, Why? Are you going to use the list to shop around? Then I usually end up telling them politely, I'm sorry, but I do not design PV systems for free. If you want parts

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charge Controllers with greater than 150 V input

2009-02-05 Thread Matt Tritt
That will be the MidNite Classic, Peter. They aren't quite ready for production yet, but thaere are promising Beta units in the field. 200 VDC I understand. Matt T Peter Parrish wrote: I seem to remember mention a while ago of a quality charge controller that supports a higher input voltage

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV pricing and Pro conduct

2009-02-05 Thread Greg Egan
: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachments/20090205/fba969f8/attachment-0001.htm -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:40:19 -0800 From: jay peltz j...@asis.com Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Charge Controllers with greater than 150 V

Re: [RE-wrenches] SS Tek Crews

2009-02-05 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
Peter, Would a #12 2 self-driller with a carbon steel shank and stainless steel hex head with attached washer do? I use the T-5 Scots screws that I get from Dynamic Fasteners. I use them to attach ProSolar al. mounting rails directly through roof metal and into a 14g or 16g z-bar purlin. (I use

[RE-wrenches] Mounting to metal roofs and thermal expansion

2009-02-05 Thread Troy Harvey
323-258-8885 CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26 peter.parr...@calsolareng.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachments/20090205/fba969f8/attachment-0001.htm