Re: [RE-wrenches] Disposal of Batteries

2009-05-11 Thread Jeff Yago
About a year or two ago there was a world shortage of lead and scrap prices for lead wet up and up, but these days I have not heard any more about this. We are getting ready to clean out all the old L-16's we have taken back during system up-grades that have been piling up, but the local

Re: [RE-wrenches] Disposal of Batteries

2009-05-11 Thread Wind-sun.com
Lead prices are way down from a year ago, futures are up - if you want to hold them for a year to get another 2 cents a pound :). Right now recycling is barely break even if not for the mandatory core charge. http://www.metalprices.com/FreeSite/metals/pb/pb.asp

[RE-wrenches] PV Estimate for Vaporware Building

2009-05-11 Thread Luke Christy
Wrenches, We have been asked for a cost estimate for a grid-tied PV system sized to offset the electrical consumption of a building that is still in the design phase. The building in question will be a elementary/high school for a small community in southern Colorado. The only information

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Estimate for Vaporware Building

2009-05-11 Thread Peter Parrish
At this point in the process you are prudent to minimize your effort while showing a desire to give the client some ballpark numbers. As long as they don't want you to dial in a large swimming pool pumping system or a machine/auto shop, start with 2 Wp/sqft, 40 kW and decide what you want to

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Estimate for Vaporware Building

2009-05-11 Thread Jeff Yago
Luke, I will give you 2 answers and they are both right, depending on circumstances. 1. In the back of my now out of print book, I had a simple fill-in-the-blank form to size solar pv systems. The first number you enter is how much money the client was willing to spend, then it works backwards

[RE-wrenches] Spacing between solar arrays

2009-05-11 Thread Joel Davidson
Wrenches,   Someone posted a website or calculation for determining the spacing between solar arrays, but I can not find it. It is easy to get the spacing from a drawing when the array faces true south, but when the array faces southeast or southwest is what we need to know. Please help. Thank

Re: [RE-wrenches] Spacing between solar arrays

2009-05-11 Thread William Miller
Joel: We have a spreadsheet on our web site that calculates inter-row spacing for south facing rows on flat or angled surfaces: http://millersolar.com/resources/resources.html You have added a new twist that has us momentarily stumped -- non-south facing rows. I am working on a solution

Re: [RE-wrenches] Spacing between solar arrays

2009-05-11 Thread Joel Davidson
Ken, Thank you. This website and software gives the sun altitude and azimuth. I seem to recall 3D graphic dynamic software where you input the site longitude and latitude, solar panel tilt angle and the north side height and the result would be a shade pattern shown for each hour. Does anyone

Re: [RE-wrenches] Spacing between solar arrays

2009-05-11 Thread William Miller
Joel: Do you mind if I send you a 97 mb animation? William At 06:28 PM 5/11/2009, you wrote: Ken, Thank you. This website and software gives the sun altitude and azimuth. I seem to recall 3D graphic dynamic software where you input the site longitude and latitude, solar panel tilt angle

Re: [RE-wrenches] Spacing between solar arrays

2009-05-11 Thread Joel Davidson
Hello William, Thanks for the offer, but I'm limited to 15 MB. Your spreadsheet is nice and simple (if I'm using it correctly). 160-inch panel length flat roof 10 degrees panel tilt sun 30 degrees altitude sun 180 degrees azimuth = 205.6 inches inner-row space (approx 1 to 1.3 ratio). FYI -

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Estimate for Vaporware Building

2009-05-11 Thread Luke Christy
Jeff and Peter, Thanks for your input. It's helpful. Cheers, -Luke Luke Christy NABCEP™ Certified PV Installer Solar Gain Services, LLC 45943 County Rd E Center, CO. 81125 sgsrenewab...@gmail.com 719.588.3044 ___ List sponsored by Home Power

Re: [RE-wrenches] Spacing between solar arrays

2009-05-11 Thread Antony Tersol
Sketchup from Google does shadows, and allows setting time of day and day of year. Challenge is getting latitude adjusted. The Pro version allows inputting, whereas the free version requires some tricks. Message: 3 Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:28:29 -0700 From: Joel Davidson