Re: [RE-wrenches] down-sizing main breaker

2009-08-02 Thread William Miller
Allan: I whipped up three drawings that indicate three overload scenarios possible with incorrectly sized distribution equipment. They are on our web site at: http://millersolar.com/case_studies/case_studies.html Click on Point of connection. Click on any drawing to see a larger version.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Surge protector update?

2009-08-02 Thread jason pozner
To piggy-back on the question, and also continue my grounding on a glacier question is anyone familiar with point dissipators and have used them. Todd mentioned Nott LTD http://www.nottltd.com/lightning.html in my last string and I have come acrooss Lightning Masters

Re: [RE-wrenches] down-sizing main breaker

2009-08-02 Thread Allan Sindelar
William, Wow - you're a master at whipping up drawings! OK, I get the concept, and it's just as I described. The scenarios in drawings one and two are OK as long as both busbars are rated 150A (commercial) or 125A (residential. You then show that the reason for the upsized feeders is to

Re: [RE-wrenches] down-sizing main breaker

2009-08-02 Thread William Miller
Allan: At the point of the short circuit, the amperage will exceed the rating of a 100 amp feeder. If the main panel had no extra breaker spaces, it could still be subject to a short circuit if, for example, a wrench is dropped into it. I should add that I am not an electrical engineer nor

Re: [RE-wrenches] down-sizing main breaker

2009-08-02 Thread Richard L Ratico
Wlliam, If there were to be a short circuit in the feeder or the main service panel ( the one with no extra breaker spaces ), the solar's maximum 50 amp contribution would be about the last thing to be concerned about. A short is going to result in perhaps 1000s of amps coming from the grid into

Re: [RE-wrenches] down-sizing main breaker

2009-08-02 Thread Richard L Ratico
William, You may well find inspectors and others who will agree with you on this. I remain firmly unconvinced. Yes, the code may be taken literally. . . . .and also, sometimes, be taken out of context. I believe you are doing that here. It is impossible to use words in such an airtight manner

Re: [RE-wrenches] down-sizing main breaker

2009-08-02 Thread William Miller
Dick: I do not desire to find building official who insist on a strict interpretation of the code, but it is a reality in our jurisdictions. We have to be pro-active and know the code better than they do, or we lose money when we are assessed corrective actions that increase our costs.