Friends:
I have grown fond of the Outback cabinets and hardware. We have found a
tremendous amount of flexibility in these enclosures. We have had to learn
as we progressed, for example:
We have mounted lots of SW inverters in the green and silver
assemblies. We had to learn how to adapt
With certain designs where you have the service between the array and the
inverter, you may be compelled to make a common raceway to a pull box and
divert a conduit to the service from there. The conduit between the pull box
and the inverter would then have your ac wires and dc wires running to
Hello Wrenches,
Pulling up this thread from earlier in the year. I have a couple of
upcoming jobs where I am attaching PV mounting structure as follows
Job 1) LFoot to metal roof into Z purlin, and Job 2) FastJack to metal
roof into bar joist.
In both of the applications I'm considering the
Could these modules be old Motorola Solavolts possibly? That's what Photocomm
switched to marketing at one point in between its ARCO days and their later
Kyocera times. That was when Motorola sold the entire Solavolt operation to
us. I was the person who managed the Motorola account for
I have adapted 2 SW's to an e panel and had to deal with an inside corner in
the process We also had to deal with the original conduit locations. It did
make for some interesting plumbing.
Works well, it also had 2 FM-60 controllers and some other gear in the mix.
The e panel used with the
Addendum: the Xantrex XW power distribution box now ships with more breaker
slots on the AC rail...enough to accommodate that third inverter mentioned
by William.
There is a field upgrade kit available from Xantrex at no charge, for those
who have the old style box. This is a replacement DIN
Pay,
Is this not typical? One reason I have tried to work with small wholesalers
[almost all are gone] that listen and support us in design and not always
being in meetings, please leave a message
The bigger they get the worse the service, dropped product lines by some CEO
that
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/partner/sma-america-inc-2081/news/article/2009/10/sma-america-unveils-new-sunny-beam-pv-system-monitor?cmpid=WNL-Wednesday-October21-2009
It appears it has arrived.
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Thanks for saying that Ray. I also have been a huge Outback fan but have
similar frustrations with why some problems have not been addressed, after all
these years. The single AC input on the GVFX comes to mind.
Todd
On Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:09pm, R Ray Walters r...@solarray.com
So in essence, you had the PV's connected directly to the inverter's DC battery
connection point. What did the MPPT charge controller do without the battery as
a buffer? Did the efficiency go up on the system without batteries to keep
charged?
Todd
On Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:12am,
My first modules had that kind of JB cover. Hoxan was the manufacturer. Do I
win?
Todd
On Thursday, October 22, 2009 2:59pm, Mick Abraham m...@abrahamsolar.com
said:
Set the dials on the Wayback Machine, Wrenches!
The modules which I wish to identify had bright blue polycrystal square cells,
HI Guys,
Check out dynamic fastener,
they have a lot of great stuff.
Including self drilling 1/4x 20 SS screws and larger.
jay
peltz power
On Oct 23, 2009, at 3:12 AM, Carl Adams wrote:
Hello Wrenches,
Pulling up this thread from earlier in the year. I have a couple of
upcoming jobs
Jim,
I believe that all of the Solavolts were single-crystal, and Mick has noted
polycrystal. I can check - my next door neighbor has a couple on her old
system. J-boxes weren't round, though.
Allan
Allan Sindelar
al...@positiveenergysolar.com
NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer
EE98J
Nice try, Todd, but~
Hoxan modules were single crystal only, right?
Next caller, you're on the line...
Mick Abraham, Proprietor
www.abrahamsolar.com
Voice: 970-731-4675
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:35 PM, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote:
My first modules had that kind of JB cover. Hoxan was
Todd,
The Hoxan 4810 from around 1995 was single crystal, not poly, and had a square
j-box. Would yours be an earlier model?
I expect to have about 25 of these available soon if anyone needs to round out
an old array. Contact me off list if interested.
Allan
Allan Sindelar
I failed to mention that the mystery modules have 36 cells in a 4 x 9 layout
pattern. Thanks to all for helping. I promise to declare one or more
winners and close out this thread soon, to keep the noise level low on the
List.
Mick Abraham, Proprietor
www.abrahamsolar.com
Voice: 970-731-4675
Mick,
If these modules have failed, it is a good bet that they are Kyocera
J-51s
David
David Katz
Chief Technical Officer
AEE Solar
1155 Redway Drive
P.O. Box 339
Redway, CA 95560
Tel (707) 825-1200
Fax (707) 825-1202
dk...@aeesolar.com mailto:da...@aeesolar.com
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Mick:
Even with the upgrade there are still not enough slots. To do a complete
job you need the following 2 pole breakers:
Inverter out X 3
Inverter Grid in X 3
Inverter Gen in X 3
Grid Bypass X 1
Gen Bypass X 1
System output X 1 (minimum)
The above requires 12 spaces. The new plate will
Thanks Todd;
That was my point: I still install more Outback inverters and
controllers than anything else, its just frustrating to see a product
line supposedly move forward, when in reality it's harder to use.
I understand William's points as well, if we're doing a multiple
inverter
Ray:
I do feel your pain, especially about the price. We had proposed using two
XW Power Distribution Panel on one job and those are even more
expensive! $500.00 plus for an empty box!
Here's one specific complaint: When using Flexware, each QOU breaker needs
a separate lead to the bus
We use Square D load centers, and recently I've used a Reliance 60 amp
transfer switch, which was only $100, breakers, busbar, etc included.
We use the super flex 3/4 conduit from Midnite, and it makes adapting
from the Outback AC side easy, w/o needing their ACA. Recently we
decided to
The modules are not officially failed, but 16 of the 18 units are
noticeably yellowed, and total array output is about 45% diminished from
probable power ratings for these mystery modules.
Since I cannot conclusively identify them without a climbing harness, an
intrepid helper and a padded
Allan:
I am not sold on the CBI din breakers. For higher amperages, they seem too
fragile to hold larger gauge wires. I have had internal failures as
well. Also, the CBI breakers will open if you barely brush your hand
against them.
The narrower QOU handles on the 2 pole breakers are
To use a 1/4 fastener with an L-foot mounting slot that's bigger, one could
use a shoulder washer or a flange bushing. Those might be good search
terms to use at, say, mcmaster.com
One must wonder if the pull-out resistance of the 1/4 Tek screw is adequate
for the wind-loading etc. There's some
Carl,I have used fablok fasteners and never drop or toggle anchors for very
similar applications and liked them. I just don't trust Tek Screws for
attaching racking systems.
Never drop:http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/115/3266/=46tlns
Yes, but atleast the QOU breakers are din rail mounted and your electrical
distributor can probably get them from Square D. The XW system is sweet. The
XW monitor (on the Xanbus network), with the Dual AC inputs provides a superior
monitoring/control system. The system is far cleaner than
Hi wrenches:
I am looking for a new source for stainless steel, self-tapping, 32 thread
per inch screws to bond Ilsco lugs to module frames. I used to buy these from
Fastenal, but they don't supply them anymore. I have been using WEEB lugs, but
one city jurisdiction doesn't allow them
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