Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply Side Tap Overcurrent Protection

2010-03-28 Thread Bill Brooks
Dave, All line side connections must have overcurrent protection (230.91) at the disconnecting means. Article 230.70 through 230.95 is what generally governs these connections. Without rewriting John Wiles' articles on this subject, here are a few quick pointers. The basic rule to remember,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply Side Tap Overcurrent Protection

2010-03-28 Thread Darryl Thayer
I have always thought it was the same calculation as the Fault current as calculated in NFPA 70E.  but I will ask some one whom I respect. Darryl --- On Sun, 3/28/10, R Ray Walters wrote: From: R Ray Walters Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply Side Tap Overcurrent Protection To: "RE-wrenches" D

Re: [RE-wrenches] AFCI compatibility with modified waveform inverters

2010-03-28 Thread Darryl Thayer
no direct experience, but I have been told they will not work. --- On Sun, 3/28/10, Kent Osterberg wrote: > From: Kent Osterberg > Subject: [RE-wrenches] AFCI compatibility with modified waveform inverters > To: "Wrenches" > Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 5:11 PM > Fellow wrenches, > > Does an

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply Side Tap Overcurrent Protection

2010-03-28 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi I also just think "service entrance equupment shall be rated for the purpose" 230.66 I know my inspectors would not accept a xantrex box as service entrance equipment unless it was marked "Suitable for service entrance" The service entrance equipment is from service to Overcurrent protection

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply Side Tap Overcurrent Protection

2010-03-28 Thread R Ray Walters
This brings up a related question, that I can't seem to find an NEC answer to: How do we calculate the available fault current, for picking our AIC rating? I used to always throw 20,000 amps AIC rating fuses and breakers for large battery banks, but on grid, it seems we would have to know things

Re: [RE-wrenches] AFCI compatibility with modified waveform inverters

2010-03-28 Thread R Ray Walters
Can't say whether the AFCIs will work with the mod sine (I'd guess not) but I do know that even a pair of Outbacks (in parallel) will not supply enough current for an AFCI to actually trip in a fault situation. AFCIs are designed to stop a 70 amp or higher arc, while the Outbacks only surge to 5

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply Side Tap Overcurrent Protection

2010-03-28 Thread Scott McCalmont
I would add the following NEC article relevant to services: 230.91 Location. The service overcurrent device shall be an integral part of the service disconnecting means or shall be located immediately adjacent thereto. Fifteen feet isn't "immediately adjacent." Regards, Scott Scott McCalmont, P

[RE-wrenches] AFCI compatibility with modified waveform inverters

2010-03-28 Thread Kent Osterberg
Fellow wrenches, Does anyone have any experience with using AFCI breakers with modified waveform inverters? I've got a customer building a new weekend home that thinks he wants a modified waveform inverter, but I don't know if the required AFCI circuit breakers will work. A few years ago Xan

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply Side Tap Overcurrent Protection

2010-03-28 Thread Bob-O Schultze
Dave, OK, here's my shot at this. Your mileage may vary. I think 240.86(A) applies here. Unless the CB in the Xantrex XW has a higher interrupt ratting (AIC) than the available fault current from that supply side tap and the CB is so marked (240.83(C), a disconnect using appropriate current limi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply Side Tap Overcurrent Protection

2010-03-28 Thread Dave Palumbo
Wrenches, I am tasked with reviewing an installation by a licensed electrician in Vermont and would like help with the following: Grid-tied PV system with battery back-up. AC point of connection is a supply side tap (done on customer side of utility meter ) then traveling 5 feet of #2 THHWN

[RE-wrenches] NABCEP Exam was: PV excellent battery charger

2010-03-28 Thread Bob-O Schultze
Folks, While none of us obviously has access to the wording of the specific question itself, I can assure you that there are no "tricky" or non-sensical questions on ANY of the NABCEP exams. Our Subject Matter Experts (SMEs) who come up with the questions AND the answers aren't a bunch of nerds