[RE-wrenches] DC wire sizing

2010-04-02 Thread Erika M. Weliczko
To my understanding the 156% on PV source and output circuits is related to the ability of PV to deliver more than rated and be continuous. Therefore, the wire has to be able to carry this current, so now the temperature and fill corrections are applied to find the wire capable of the 156%. I

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC wire sizing

2010-04-02 Thread Kent Osterberg
Erika, You should refer to NEC 690.8 this information.  There are two issues that contribute to the 1.56 factor.  First is that the maximum current from the PV array is considered the short circuit current multiplied by 1.25 to account for higher than standard irradiance such as cloud edge eff

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC wire sizing

2010-04-02 Thread William Miller
Eirka: Although the Imp is your normal operating condition, you need to design wire size for an abnormal occurrence (short circuit or other fault). You do not want the wire to burst in to flame after an unplanned short circuit, do you? Remember, you may have combiner fuses, but you have no o

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC wire sizing

2010-04-02 Thread Bill Brooks
Erika, The most correct answer (which is a really funny thing to say) is to use John Wiles' "5-step program"-that's what I call it. It is published in one of the appendices of his latest "Suggested Practices" document. If you can actually follow what he leads you through (that's why I call it t

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC wire sizing

2010-04-02 Thread Bill Brooks
Erika, The most correct answer (which is a really funny thing to say) is to use John Wiles' "5-step program"-that's what I call it. It is published in one of the appendices of his latest "Suggested Practices" document. If you can actually follow what he leads you through (that's why I call it t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback Grid Problems

2010-04-02 Thread Glenn Burt
I recently bought a 345. It is a great tool - I use it on every commercial commissioning and QA inspection I do. I had a customer with high utility voltage and the meter recorded this very well. Interesting to watch the voltage and current measurements on a residential PV install when the inverter

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC wire sizing

2010-04-02 Thread robert ellison
I believe that the breakers from CBI, Midnite and Outback are hydraulic / magnetic and may be operated at 100% While the derating applies to all others that are Thermal / magnetic, Bob On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Kent Osterberg wrote: > Erika, > > You should refer to NEC 690.8 this informa

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC wire sizing

2010-04-02 Thread Allan Sindelar
Yes, they are 100% duty rated. Also, a little-known fact about the CBI breakers used by Midnite and Outback, gleaned from conversations with Robin Gudgel: because of this hydraulic/magnetic construction, all are capable of controlling both AC and DC, even if not listed as both.

[RE-wrenches] Need 5 Astropower modules or equivalent

2010-04-02 Thread Joel Davidson
Wrenches, I need 5 Astropower (or GE) APX-140 or equivalent 36-cell modules to replace customer's broken modules. Please contact me off-list. Thanks in advance. Best regards, Joel Davidson ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC modules verses codes and safety

2010-04-02 Thread Jeff Yago
Since the new micro-inverters can be easily wired into the nearest 240 VAC circuit, odds are this will be the new do-it-yourself project for homeowners.  However, odds also favor new round of outlaw solar systems that are not inspected, do not have properly sized wires and breakers, and do not have

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC wire sizing

2010-04-02 Thread Darryl Thayer
Erika you are correct, the solar radiance can exceed STC by about 125%, any one who has spent any time with a pyrometer has observed this.  From experience's  continuously operated  circuits fail  fasted than  intermittent circuits.  for the temperature and conduit fill, they are valid of course