Re: [RE-wrenches] Advice needed on upsizing a battery grid interactive inverter stack

2010-08-08 Thread bob
Can the Outbacks be mixed as ½ or whatever number be GT units and the rest be off grid so they can charge off a generator or better than that make the battery charging inverters Magnums, they give more charge for the bucks. They can feed a load panel on their own and charge the batteries off the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Advice needed on upsizing a battery grid interactive inverter stack

2010-08-08 Thread Doug Pratt
Hi Mick, We're increasingly running into this how big can you go with battery-based grid-tie question. Most of the hardware out there was designed with modest residential systems in mind. Outback is limited to 2 inverters max in grid-tie mode. 7.5kW. (I'm really curious what Darryl is

Re: [RE-wrenches] Advice needed on upsizing a battery grid interactive inverter stack

2010-08-08 Thread Darryl Thayer
I think you may have some thing there.  It a bit out of the box however,   At C/10 one Magnum can handle 1000 AH battery.  But the magnums can not grid tie, so the GT would be left to the Outbacks.  Your idea is intregueing however.  I think there is a out of box solution for this problem. 

Re: [RE-wrenches] Advice needed on upsizing a battery grid interactive inverter stack

2010-08-08 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi Doug My 12 stack may not be in compliance today, it appeared to be in compliance when it was installed.  It works, but I do not wish to look to hard at it.  It involved extra and custom work by outback when it was installed. Darryl --- On Sun, 8/8/10, Doug Pratt dmpr...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Advice needed on upsizing a battery grid interactive inverter stack

2010-08-08 Thread Mick Abraham
Excellent input, as usual. Thanks to all. *** My original drawing showed three triple-stacks of Xantrex XW6048 inverters...with the note that three may not be enough. That XW architecture would require splitting up the downstream loads. Just

Re: [RE-wrenches] Advice needed on upsizing a battery grid interactive inverter stack

2010-08-08 Thread Darryl Thayer
I have grid-tied and Outback-tied and Magnum-tied to an induction motor run as a generator, thus making it an induction-generator.  The induction-generator runs at just above 1800 RPM  if the  generator slows it acts as a motor taking power from the inverter.  If the prime mover tries to speed

Re: [RE-wrenches] Advice needed on upsizing a battery grid interactive inverter stack

2010-08-08 Thread Mick Abraham
I believe Marathon Engine also uses an induction motor for their generator end, then they control the engine RPM to keep the output voltage above the grid signal. Jolliness, Mick Abraham, Proprietor www.abrahamsolar.com Voice: 970-731-4675 On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Darryl Thayer

Re: [RE-wrenches] Advice needed on upsizing a battery grid interactive inverter stack

2010-08-08 Thread Philip Boutelle
Hi Mick- Regarding the Sunny Island system: you can stack four SI5048U's in a split phase configuration. Install with an AC1 combining subpanel and an AC2 combining subpanel, so your backup load center isn't fed directly on one leg by one inverter--if you lose an inverter, you just lose