Re: [RE-wrenches] The perfect solar ready roof

2010-10-21 Thread benn kilburn
chris,don't forget to make sure that the existing roof structure is engineered to support the added weight of the extra layer of plywood, as well as the racking/modules. benn DayStar Renewable Energy Inc. b...@daystarsolar.ca780-906-7807 HAVE A SUNNY DAY From: ch...@oasismontana.com

Re: [RE-wrenches] The perfect solar ready roof

2010-10-21 Thread Richard L Ratico
Chris, You most likely recall, there was a thread here discussing special standing seam attachment details required with the S-5 product. With your weather, those might be critical for the roofers to follow, should you go that route. I was unaware of the white spotting from hail you've seen on

Re: [RE-wrenches] boiler on inverter

2010-10-21 Thread dan
I hear there are some Gas Boilers that don't use electricity at all.. So when a zone calls for heat, the circulator fires and wakes up the inverter.. and of course, I do know of folks that just can't let their system sleep in the first place.Dan BrownFoxfire Energy Corp.Renewable Energy

Re: [RE-wrenches] VAWT recommendation

2010-10-21 Thread greg
Kelly, I've never seen one or heard of one that produces power or lasts. If you install these your name is on them. If they don't work it reflects on you and your business. I'd write the prime contractor a short note letting them know that you cannot find a VAWT that you can recommend with a

Re: [RE-wrenches] boiler on inverter

2010-10-21 Thread Dana
Peter - I would not rely on the inverter coming out of sleep if heat is critical for the dwelling. Most wall mounted boilers' have a 5-20 watt low voltage transformer that is an additional load too. Add a module or two and sleep well at night. Thanks, Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc

Re: [RE-wrenches] VAWT recommendation

2010-10-21 Thread Kelly Keilwitz, Whidbey Sun Wind
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[RE-wrenches] 100kW BOS cost per Watt

2010-10-21 Thread Luke Christy
Esteemed Wrenches, We are working on preliminary pricing (not a bid) for several 100kW ground mount commercial systems (crystalline fixed mount). This sort of system is somewhat outside of our niche, and I'm wondering what folks who do it all the time are seeing for typical BOS costs

Re: [RE-wrenches] VAWT recommendation

2010-10-21 Thread North Texas Renewable Energy Inc
Greg, keep in mind this is the US military we're talking about. They neither think nor function in reality a large part of the time. They are trained to follow orders and are not allowed to think for themselves. Maybe you've never served Jim Duncan ** Kelly, I've never seen one or

[RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Drake
Hello Wrenches, We are installing a ground mount system with Enphase inverters. 690.31 requires readily accessible source and output conductors OPERATING at over 30 volts to be installed in a raceway. The Vmp of the REC230PE modules is 29.4 volts. Of course it would go higher in cold

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Dave Click
How about hardware cloth along the back of the array beneath the rails? I think that's been suggested on this list before. Original Message Subject: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening From: Drake drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org To: RE-wrenches

Re: [RE-wrenches] The perfect solar ready roof

2010-10-21 Thread Andrew Truitt
If you ask me this is a dream scenario. The scary thing about S-5!s is that you rarely know how often the roofing panels are attached to the decking and how well the decking is attached to the framing. In this case you can direct the roofer to fasten the roof as often as you want. I had a PE do

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread William Miller
Drake: Who is manufacturing the racking? DPW has worked with us to develop some screening options. WE have also developed our own screening (and wire management) procedures. We spend a lot of time creating these procedures we keep them to ourselves to prevent local competitors from

Re: [RE-wrenches] VAWT recommendation

2010-10-21 Thread Matt Lafferty
Hi Kelly, I'm jealous. This sounds like a sweet opportunity. As long as your contract is clear on the things you are going to cover. Including being reimbursed for servicing anything that wasn't supplied by you. I'm with Darryl T on this Get paid for labor and common BOS stuff only. Stay out

Re: [RE-wrenches] The perfect solar ready roof

2010-10-21 Thread benn kilburn
andrew,a few comments added to your last email... You Wrote If you ask me this is a dream scenario. The scary thing about S-5!s is that you rarely know how often the roofing panels are attached to the decking and how well the decking is attached to the framing. i'm not overly familiar

Re: [RE-wrenches] boiler on inverter

2010-10-21 Thread jason pozner
Peter, We had a client with a SW 4024 and his system was trying to power a new Buderus boiler. The boiler controller didn't like the power quality. We cleaned up that circuit with a capacitor and has been working great since. We didn' have a sleeping issue, but he did have quite a few phantom

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Bill Brooks
Drake, I recommend using 4'x8' panels of lattice work that is either wood or PVC so that you don't have worry about grounding the material. It is reasonably attractive and can hide some of the ugly parts of the array. The panels can be held on with battens that screw into the structural member

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Mark Frye
I still wonder about the 30VDC requirement creeping into the Code. But I feel even more strange when, and it is hard to keep a straight face, let alone actually think about relegating the integrity of my PV system topanels of wood lattice. Perhaps Home Depot does have the right idea about

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Maybe they should require that extension cords be in conduit. :) where do you draw the line? If lattice is good enough, is fiberglass screen okay? How about bird netting or orange construction fence? Seriously though, we have never been required to use a lattice or fenced enclosure for a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Mark Frye
You know, I can go down into my unfinished basement, through an unlocked full height door. The wiring in this space is fully Code compliant. And yet, I can walk over and put my bare hand right onto a piece NM cable that has 200A of 240 VAC running on it. But God forbid I should be able to walk

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Bill Brooks
Mark, The fact is you can't legally walk up and touch NM cable anymore. Whenever your house was built, that may have been code compliant, but not since the early 1990s has that been allowed. You may think a wooden lattice work is insufficient protection, but the code disagrees with you as a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Matt Lafferty
I agree with Bill. Am I the only one who sees this as a 240 VAC application, not a 29.5 VDC application? The AC will be run in cable, not conduit, under the array. Code and common sense say we don't want unqualified people walking up to it and grabbing cables. If it's a conventional ground

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount Screening

2010-10-21 Thread Mark Frye
Bill, I don't really want to call you out, but I also don't like you lording your expertise over me, implying that I am stupid and I am going to get myself killed someday, or worse yet kill someone else: 1 - 2008 NEC 334.15 NM Cable...Exposed Work(C) in unfinished basements. What exactly

Re: [RE-wrenches] The perfect solar ready roof

2010-10-21 Thread Phil Undercuffler
There is a big difference between standing seam metal roofs and surface screwed metal roofs. With surface screwed (aka ProPanel or Ag Panel), screws penetrate through the roof skin and rely upon a neoprene gasket under a cupped washer to provide the weather-tight seal. It makes a pretty good