Re: [RE-wrenches] module / panel

2011-02-09 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Personally, I wouldn't want marketing people to read the NEC unless all of our customers were reading the NEC, too. The reality is, when talking to customers, a module is called a panel. When talking to you, a module is a module. In customer speak, panel is to module as features are to

Re: [RE-wrenches] module / panel

2011-02-09 Thread Bill Loesch
Hi Joel, Interesting applications. I'm not trying to be pedantic but (in the '93 application) did you mean the module was seeing the flame and keeping the _gas valve_ open? Do I understand correctly that it was capable of keeping the electromagnet energized on only pilot flame? Essentially

[RE-wrenches] Trojan L-1r studs

2011-02-09 Thread William Miller
Friends: We were repairing an install yesterday that contained a group of Trojan L-16 batteries. To our surprise, two of the threaded studs pulled out of the battery cases. The studs are really just standard machine bolts with the heads pressed into a socket. I have never seen this before.

Re: [RE-wrenches] module / panel

2011-02-09 Thread Ian Woofenden
Not really wrench talk, but as long as you guys are talking about one of my pet peeves... I think the phrase solar panel is what editors would call a skunked term -- abused and confused so much that it's better to not use it. It's not understood by many audiences in many situations; it's

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-1r studs

2011-02-09 Thread Nathan Jones
William, If the connections were not tight enough heat could have built up to melt the bolt mount. It is not all that uncommon and confirms the importance of properly torqueing all connections. Nathan Jones Power Source Solar On Wed Feb 9th, 2011 11:23 AM CST William Miller wrote: Friends: We

Re: [RE-wrenches] questions about solar charging 72v UPS

2011-02-09 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi all I have charged 72 volts on a golf cart type deal, with 2 each morningstar T60 and with 2 each MX 60s But Appolo may work or Classic the trick is only use the charging function do not connect any communication cables   Grounding is the problem.  as one of the controllers is floating. 

[RE-wrenches] Meter base minimum conductor size

2011-02-09 Thread Carl Adams
Wrenches, We often use a conventional 100A meter base and analog meter as an independent metering system for inverter output. These meters typically have a minimum conductor size of #6 AWG. For smaller systems the inverter output conductors are smaller than #6 AWG. We have upsized the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Meter base minimum conductor size

2011-02-09 Thread Mick Abraham
Try this, Carl~ Strip about 1.5 off the end of your skinny stranded wire then fold it in thirds before inserting it into the compression lug. It's still only one wire in case anyone should ask, but your inspector may balk. Try it and see as this would depend on the inspector's particular mindset.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Meter base minimum conductor size

2011-02-09 Thread Maverick Brown [Maverick Solar]
Try using ferrules: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Phoenix-Contact/3200315/?qs=Hp4IEBVVqKI9 npAWQtu7Sg%3d%3d Strip the wire and insert into the ferrule, crimp with terminal crimper and then insert into the larger lug. Good luck, Maverick Maverick Brown BSEET, NABCEP Certified Solar PV

Re: [RE-wrenches] Meter base minimum conductor size

2011-02-09 Thread Louis Woofenden
Hi Carl, We use Cooper B-Line meter bases for this application. The 100A meter base terminals are good from #14AWG to 2/0AWG. Check out http://cooperbline.com/product/PDFLibrary/metermountingequipment/index.htm, click on Single Meter Sockets -- Without Bypass, on the left, then click on 100

Re: [RE-wrenches] Meter base minimum conductor size

2011-02-09 Thread Kent Osterberg
Carl, You won't find the lugs being any different than the models that aren't listed for small wire, but using a meter base listed for the right wire is best. The Murray/Siemens 135-amp meter bases are listed for 14 AWG to 2/0