Re: [RE-wrenches] AGM battery charging, more details

2011-04-24 Thread Hugh
Thanks, Larry for the detailed response Generally, the manufacturers charge recommendations should be followed. Yes but the issue I have is to know when and how to switch from absorption to float. The Tristar has its own decision process but is it correct? And if not then are the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery at temp

2011-04-24 Thread Hugh
So maybe we should be heating our batteries up to get more energy/capacity out of them :-) Better tell Roy's customer to turn off his AC. I did read a serious design document that told me I should heat battery compartments to 25 degrees C in order to maximise performance but I decided not

Re: [RE-wrenches] AGM battery charging, more details

2011-04-24 Thread Allan Sindelar
Hugh, I don't have much to add here, as I'm mostly learning from your experience. But I'll add that if I understand your reference to transition current as a transition to float, several charge controllers have that feature. I have generally always used it, but

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery at temp

2011-04-24 Thread jay peltz
Hi Hugh, The other thing to consider with heat is that higher temperatures while increasing capacity also decrease life ( more active chemical reactions, and conversely lower temps increase battery life. jay peltz power On Apr 24, 2011, at 12:19 AM, Hugh wrote: So maybe we should be heating

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Life (Air conditioning for batteries in high temperature climate)

2011-04-24 Thread William Dorsett
Zomeworks has the passively cooled battery boxes and electronic equipment boxes, Cool Cells. http://zomeworks.com/products/cool-cell/how-cool-cellae-works. I suspect these are expensive, but perhaps not more than the added PV capacity needed to run an ac. Bill Dorsett Sunwrights Manhattan,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Life (Air conditioning for batteries in high temperature climate)

2011-04-24 Thread William Dorsett
Reply #2 Looking at the specs for standard Cool Cells the biggest is 46 x 23 x 13 and lists at $2,219. Still the idea is great and I would wonder if there isn 't a comparable use of heat pipes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_pipe.

Re: [RE-wrenches] AGM battery charging, more details

2011-04-24 Thread Hugh
At 08:22 -0600 24/4/11, Allan Sindelar wrote: if I understand your reference to transition current as a transition to float, several charge controllers have that feature. I imagine they are solar charge controllers. Diversion charge controllers as used on wind and hydro systems do not have

Re: [RE-wrenches] AGM battery charging, more details

2011-04-24 Thread Allan Sindelar
Hugh, Let me give it a shot. My apologies about noting only solar charge controllers - I forgot that the sun is a rarity where you live. The return amps affects only the transition from absorption to float. If, while the voltage remains up at the bulk/absorption