[RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread benn kilburn
Wrenches,I have been asked about sizing PV systems for a couple different music festivals that have been run solely off of generators in the past. The problem i'm having is determining the energy consumption of music/stage (amps, speakers, lights, etc...?) loads as well as concession. The

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread boB Gudgel
On 4/27/2011 3:51 PM, benn kilburn wrote: Wrenches, I have been asked about sizing PV systems for a couple different music festivals that have been run solely off of generators in the past. The problem i'm having is determining the energy consumption of music/stage (amps, speakers, lights,

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread Starlight Solar, Larry Crutcher
Benn, I've had requests like this in the past and have found in EVERY case the customer has no idea that it will take a $$$multi-tens-of-thousands to replace the generator power. If you have the estimating experience, throw out a very large ballpark number to see if their eyes get wide. You

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread boB Gudgel
On 4/27/2011 4:50 PM, Starlight Solar, Larry Crutcher wrote: Benn, I've had requests like this in the past and have found in EVERY case the customer has no idea that it will take a $$$multi-tens-of-thousands to replace the generator power. If you have the estimating experience, throw out a

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread wirewiz
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Re: [RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread Rich Nicol
I think its CV Solar that does the Solarfest system. http://www.cvsolar.com/ Thanks Rich -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of wire...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 8:06 PM To:

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread R Ray Walters
Solarfest in Taos had a solar powered stage for years, so it definitely can be done. I've been into sound stuff lately, and I can say the loads are extremely variable. I have a 600 watt rated amp, (class D design) that I peaked at 270 watts input and averaged about 150 watts while I was testing

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread dan
It's the lights that will get you. JB should chime in here soon, but as I recall SF in Vt maxed at around 15-20kw for sound and in the neighborhood of 50k for lights.Dan BrownFoxfire Energy Corp.Renewable Energy Systems(802)-483-2564www.Foxfire-Energy.comNABCEP #092907-44 Original

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread Brian Teitelbaum
Benn, I have a little experience from about a decade ago. Don't know how useful it will be though. AEE and DC Power used to team up to supply power for a three-day outdoor music festival in Mendocino Co, CA in the mid 90's and early 2000's. Music from 5-8PM on Friday, and from 11AM-10PM on

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread jay peltz
HI Brian, I would add that remember we had to take out the400 amp class T fuses because they kept blowing! jay peltz power On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Brian Teitelbaum wrote: Benn, I have a little experience from about a decade ago. Don’t know how useful it will be though. AEE and

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Yep- lighting can be a killer, especially if not LED. I have experience with mobile solar and stage power. Email me directly for more info. I can tell you that I just did an Earth Day concert (3 years running) with a mobile solar trailer for 3000 people and they did not make a Magnum 4048

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread Exeltech
Benn, I totally agree with everything Brian and Jason said, especially the aspect of the chronic and *significant* UNDER-estimation of the power needs by the sound equipment crew. Earlier comments in this thread from Larry (Starlight Solar), Ray Walters, Jason (Fafco Solar) are also spot on. 

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread boB Gudgel
Just as an aside, today's inverters are pretty much a Class D audio amplifier anyway. An inverter ~could~ actually be used for a subwoofer amplifer in some cases. I've always wanted to have an inverter with an audio jack on it just for that and actually did try that back a Trace

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread R Ray Walters
Dan; Your system sounds great. I'd love to hear it sometime. Just one question: how come no tube amps? You're going to have some guitar players screaming; most of the best guitar amps are all tube these days. I know they waste a lot of power, but they're usually small compared to the PA system.