[RE-wrenches] SMA Sunny Design temperature/voltage calculations

2011-12-01 Thread Howie Michaelson
Apropos to the great discussion about temperature voltage calculations, has anyone else been frustrated by the removal of output information on the Sunny Design tool compared to the old on-line string sizing calculator? It was very useful to me to have the string sizer show the temperature voltage

[RE-wrenches] old trace manual

2011-12-01 Thread Howie Michaelson
Hi All, Does anyone know of a link to the old Trace 2624 inverter/Charger (the one with the plexiglass front. I believe the model number was U2624, but I'm not positive. I'm trying to remember what the maximum bulk voltage setting was on it. Also wondering how sensitive to lower gennie voltage o

Re: [RE-wrenches] calculating low string voltage

2011-12-01 Thread Ray Walters
Again Thanks Bill and David; Continued excellent information. I just jumped on Solectria'a string sizing online tool, and what are they using for the Vmpp coefficent? just a tiny bit higher than the Voc coefficient. SMAs new design tool just lists the Voc coeff. I think some manus might nee

Re: [RE-wrenches] calculating low string voltage

2011-12-01 Thread David Brearley
http://www.copper.org/applications/electrical/building/pdf/rooftop.pdf ³ASHRAE bases its ³warm-season temperature conditions² for each city on annual percentiles of 0.4%, 2 %, 5% and 10%. As an example, the June 2.0% dry-bulb design temperature for Atlanta is 91.7°F. Therefore, based on a 30-day m

Re: [RE-wrenches] calculating low string voltage

2011-12-01 Thread Bill Brooks
Ray, There is an explanation on the www.solarabcs.org/permitting webpage for the interactive solar map. The 2% ASHRAE data represents 14 hours in a month-meaning temperature will be at or above that value for 14 hours in a typical month. This is likely to correspond to at least one 3-hour timefram

Re: [RE-wrenches] calculating low string voltage

2011-12-01 Thread Dave Click
Ray, I'd use the 2% high temp. The 0.4% high temp would only be reached a few hours out of the year. However, the 0.4% high is only a few degC warmer than the 2% high, so that would change my fudge factor below by a max of 1.8-2.0%. On 2011/12/1 15:48, Ray Walters wrote: That's more detailed

Re: [RE-wrenches] OutBack Radian

2011-12-01 Thread penobscotsolar
Thanks Orion, Most of our work in the winter is in the Caribbean and Mexico and they all use 60 hz. I appreciate it, though. Daryl > Daryl, > > We have not had any hands on experience yet with the Radian series > inverters, and only minimal interaction with the MATE3. But since you > mentio

Re: [RE-wrenches] calculating low string voltage

2011-12-01 Thread Glenn Burt
ASHRAE temp data as applicable to PV can be found (with some digging) on the Solar ABCs website. http://solarabcs.org/about/publications/reports/expedited-permit/map/map_int ro.html -Glenn -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists

Re: [RE-wrenches] calculating low string voltage

2011-12-01 Thread Gary Willett
Ray: Look at Appendix F in the Expedited Permit Process for PV Systems - A Standardized Process for the Review of Small-Scale PV Systems Prepared by Bill Brooks, P.E. Brooks Engineering This document provides the ASHRE temperatures for a lot of locations around the USA. http://www.solarabc

Re: [RE-wrenches] calculating low string voltage

2011-12-01 Thread Ray Walters
That's more detailed info, but I still am wondering what ambient temp to apply (which AHSRAE #) with the temp adder. Daryl suggested using a 2% high temp. Also, where are you all getting your weather data? I found the NEC suggested ASHRAE manual to be close to $200. That's a bit much just t

Re: [RE-wrenches] OutBack Radian

2011-12-01 Thread Orion Thornton
Daryl, We have not had any hands on experience yet with the Radian series inverters, and only minimal interaction with the MATE3. But since you mentioned that your systems would be out of country I thought I would bring up the fact that the Radian inverters only come in 60Hz models, no 50Hz outpu

[RE-wrenches] OutBack Radian

2011-12-01 Thread penobscotsolar
Hi all, We are looking at a busy winter season and there are several systems I'd like to size using OutBack's Radian. These are all out of the country jobs and I would be interested in any experiences anyone has had so far installing and/or using these seemingly great inverters. I would likel

Re: [RE-wrenches] Diversion load for AC coupled system

2011-12-01 Thread Hugh
At 12:16 -0700 30/11/11, Larry Crutcher, Here's a scenario: Sun is up and voltage rises slowly to the diversion controller set point. PWM starts and maintains the voltage. Current continues to increase but the load is keeping the voltage constant until the controller is overloaded. I think th

Re: [RE-wrenches] calculating low string voltage

2011-12-01 Thread Dave Click
At an SMA training last year they recommended the following temperature adders: Open field: +22°C Rooftop, lots of ventilation: +28°C Rooftop, some ventilation: +29°C Rooftop, little ventilation: +32°C Rooftop BIPV, no ventilation: +43°C Façade, some ventilation: +35°C Façade, little ventilation