Re: [RE-wrenches] Fronius State 104

2012-10-08 Thread Philip Boutelle
Jeff- See if you can find a PowerSight power meter (http://www.powersight.com/; in PGE territory, we can borrow them from PGE for free). This will allow you to log and chart frequency. Present your data to Fronius, and assuming that your grid frequency is actually within permissible range, push

[RE-wrenches] Trojan 2 volt L-16s

2012-10-08 Thread William Miller
Friends: Has anyone used the Trojan 2 volt L-16 batteries? They each have 3 cells, I presume in parallel. The question presents: Although you can divide the strings by three, there are still an equal number of batteries and cells to maintain and to get out of whack. Will these batteries

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan 2 volt L-16s

2012-10-08 Thread Tom Duffy
William I have wondered about this as well, why don't they just make a big 1110 AH cell? Which as you point out would be less caps to feed and less chance of cell imbalance as well. I do like 2V cells over 6V but this question bothers me. Tom Duffy -Original Message- From:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan 2 volt L-16s

2012-10-08 Thread Dan Fink
Tom, big cells are really the way to go, rather than too many parallel battery bank connections. That is for darned sure, Methinks the issue is delivery weight. Was considering a back-of-pickup-truck winch arm thing here not too many years back, and then it all flashed before my eyes...this

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan 2 volt L-16s

2012-10-08 Thread John DeBoever
William, Wrenches, Thank you for asking. Indeed the Trojan Premium L16RE-2V is a monoblock flooded lead-acid battery. The cells inside the monoblock are configured in parallel with internal interconnects that are factory-welded and typically offer lower resistance disparity compared to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan 2 volt L-16s

2012-10-08 Thread Kirk Herander
The Rolls L16 series 2 vdc are single cells. They come in three AH capacities @ C20, the S-1590 being 1200 ahr. I will say I have not good luck with the lowest capacity S-1380(1050 ahr). Won't hold a charge after only 1 yr in service at recommended charge rate. Kirk Herander VT Solar, LLC

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan 2 volt L-16s

2012-10-08 Thread William Miller
Tom: To answer your question below: because it would only be 2 volts. Best case: for a 48 volt system you need 24 cells, period. This way they are all in series and not separate strings. In separate strings, one string will be dominant and others will be subsidiary, over time. The

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan 2 volt L-16s

2012-10-08 Thread R Ray Walters
At least the imbalance would only be one cell, not a whole string of cells. Ray On Oct 8, 2012, at 2:20 PM, William Miller wrote: There may be another benefit: While there are really three strings in each case, the connections are factory and maybe not prone to imbalance. This is the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan 2 volt L-16s

2012-10-08 Thread William Miller
~Ray: Yes, indeed. But--- would one defective cell bring about the early demise of the other two in the same case? If this occurs after one year of age, are we advised against changing out the one bad battery and required to replace all of them? More questions seem to occur the more we

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan 2 volt L-16s

2012-10-08 Thread John DeBoever
William, It is not recommended to replace one bad unit by a new one in a 1 year-old battery bank. That will definitely unbalance the strings. Modern solar chargers and inverter-chargers typically have settings adjustable to reset to handle a previously 48V battery bank configuration into a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan 2 volt L-16s

2012-10-08 Thread dan
Generally speaking, I've been using L16s as beginner batteries.. something for folks to learn on. as soon as they do, I push large 2 volt cells. thin plate technology is just not that forgiving. dbDan BrownFoxfire Energy Corp.Renewable Energy Systems(802)-483-2564www.Foxfire-Energy.comNABCEP

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan 2 volt L-16s

2012-10-08 Thread John DeBoever
Bob, Trojan is launching the single-point watering system for the 2v single cells Trojan IND Line. John On Oct 8, 2012, at 18:05, bob ellison reelli...@gmail.commailto:reelli...@gmail.com wrote: I too like the big single cells. I have used many of the Deka 1360 AH 2 volt cells with good

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fronius State 104

2012-10-08 Thread Kent Osterberg
Jeff, Is there any chance the utility has recently implemented a remote meter reading system? The Aclara TWACs remote meter reading system communicates by putting a pulse on the line that is very near the zero crossing of the voltage waveform.