Re: [RE-wrenches] DC circuit breakers in parallel

2013-02-28 Thread Exeltech
William and all, Our larger UL-certified inverter systems at Exeltech are routinely built with multiple individual breakers with the handles pinned together to create a higher-amperage device. To William's point, and by way of example, it's common for us to have three 100-amp breakers ganged

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC circuit breakers in parallel

2013-02-28 Thread Maverick Brown
Larry I hope you went ahead as planned. I have magnum 1500w inverter on my work truck. I paralleled 3 each of 60a breakers. I did not use parallel cables but installed a four finger MidNite bus bar on the bottom (allowing the addition of a 15A Charge Controller breaker) and a 3 finger bus

Re: [RE-wrenches] Conductor Sizing for Supply Side Connection

2013-02-28 Thread Garrison Riegel
Thanks Allen for clarifying why a 60A is required. I was wondering. The spec does list a surge current of 9000W so I thought that may be the rationale, but even that would only require a 50A, and since this surge occurs during 'stand-alone mode' it didn't seem to apply to the OCPD at the main

Re: [RE-wrenches] Conductor Sizing for Supply Side Connection

2013-02-28 Thread Allan Sindelar
Garrison, I don't know why it's not listed as 60A max, but my own internal logic would ask why it should be. The only benefit I could see for using smaller than a 60A breaker would be to allow use of #8 conductors (allowed with a 40A or 50A breaker) instead of

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC circuit breakers in parallel

2013-02-28 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
Yes I did. What a wonderful resource this list is to the world of Wrenches everywhere. Thank to all, Larry Crutcher Starlight Solar Power Systems On Feb 28, 2013, at 6:10 AM, Maverick Brown wrote: Larry I hope you went ahead as planned. I have magnum 1500w inverter on my work truck. I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Conductor Sizing for Supply Side Connection

2013-02-28 Thread Garrison Riegel
Allen, The benefit I see would be to allow for a code compliant load side connection on a 200A panel with a 200A MB, where the AHJ is on the 2008 NEC or older and will not listen to your good logic. I don't think this would always be the best option, but if backup loads and inverter output

Re: [RE-wrenches] Conductor Sizing for Supply Side Connection

2013-02-28 Thread Dave Click
As a note, supply side connections have an extra complication with battery backup systems. With a regular GT inverter you're just pushing current into that interconnection point and you can work out easily that you won't have any overcurrent issues unless you made a big mistake and your

Re: [RE-wrenches] Conductor Sizing for Supply Side Connection

2013-02-28 Thread Garrison Riegel
Great point Dave. It crossed my mind that it was technically possible, but figured since I would be removing loads off the main panel it was highly unlikely. Thanks for the code reference. I'll go load side, and be prepared for some discussion. Thanks, Garrison From:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Conductor Sizing for Supply Side Connection

2013-02-28 Thread gary
Garrison, et al:   Another consideration when sizing the POCC OCPD (either load side or supply side) is charging current when the grid power returns and the battery bank is near the LBCO voltage.   Bulk charging current and AC pass-through current both must be considered when sizing the POCC

[RE-wrenches] PV Watts for Of Grid Design?

2013-02-28 Thread All Solar, Inc.
Wrenches, I had a prospect send me PV Watts data for his future off grid home. Of course we use PV Watts for GT systems all the time, but I have yet to use it for Off Grid system design. We use an old Dankoff Solar tool that has worked for years Any thoughts on using PV Watts as a basis

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Watts for Of Grid Design?

2013-02-28 Thread Dan Fink
Hi Jeremy; PV Watts works fine for off-grid. We generally use a 30-35% de-rate factor. But in reality with uswe are all locked in on different 'tiers' of systems..with L-16 or T-105 battery banks, you get locked in by having to add batteries in sets of 8 (or sometimes 4, only rarely 2).