[RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread jay peltz
HI All, I know many of you like this concept. I was just made aware of a new product from Kohler. Kohler 6vsg. Natural gas or propane, 24, 36,48v dc only looks pretty good, I understand it was made for the telecom industry. And while Im not normally on board with the DC genset idea, that i

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Allan Sindelar
Jay, If this is the unit I think it it, it has been discussed and rejected on this list in previous threads. It has been around for years, although the model appears to have been upgraded, as it's now variable speed 2,300-2,900 rpm. The primary issue, if I

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Carl Adams
Very interesting Jay, A customer just asked me two days ago, if it would be possible to install a DC Generator to feed his six SunnyBoy 6000s at night. He was thinking of a water cooled genny from which he could harvest heat while also providing power to the inverters. He said he thought the

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Dan Fink
Run the 54vdc generator output through a Midnite Classic, Outback FX, etc? Dan Fink, Executive Director; Otherpower Buckville Energy Consulting Buckville Publications LLC NABCEP / IREC accredited Continuing Education Providers 970.672.4342 On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Allan Sindelar

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Allan Sindelar
Rated 111A at 54 VDC; 222A at 27 VDC. I think that's too much current for any charge controller. So close and yet so far... Allan Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Me
The way i always do DC gen sets is to run through rectifier directly to batt buss with fuse. Use parallel dump load controllers to account for batt charge protection. Works real well and is pretty bullet proof and reliable. RoyR Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wireless™ -Original message-

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Kent Osterberg
Polar Power makes a couple generators with similar features: http://www.polardcmarine.com/polarpower/products/dc-generators/8220d-950p/ http://www.polardcmarine.com/polarpower/products/dc-generators/8220k-972/ I haven't check to see if the output voltage is adjustable, or suitable for charging

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
Jay, Two big issues I have with these is no current regulation and a fixed, 2.25V per cell output voltage. If a flooded battery bank is at a low SoC, the over current can cause damage. For AGM's this would be fine, though. The low charge voltage means very long charge time and wasted fuel.

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread James Jarvis
The Polar Power units have variable output charging. Lots more smarts than just float charge. Very good integrated automatic generator starting and stopping. Our customers haven't been very impressed with the super capacitor for starting. -James Jarvis APRS World, LLC On 03/05/2013 11:29 AM,

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Chris Mason
I think that's too much current for any charge controller. Why use a charge controller? Surely the idea is to provide a bulk charge facility for emergency where the solar resource is not sufficient. Couldn't you use start/stop control to get the batteries to, say, 80% charge then shut it down? A