Re: [RE-wrenches] Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems

2013-12-31 Thread Eric Youngren
Thank you Allan, Dan and Ray for your suggestions.This is the kind of feedback I was hoping for! I agree that the 75W of PV with 120AH of sealed battery is too low of a ratio of PV to storage and will not help the batteries last 7 years. Unfortunately those parts of the design are pre-determin

Re: [RE-wrenches] OFF-LINE: Re: Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems

2013-12-31 Thread Ray Walters
I missed the part about limiting the design to a 75 w module. That's only a C30 charge rate, which I think is too low for the battery size. That's apparently a 5 day at 80% DOD criteria; very 90s. Haven't they heard about $1/w PV? R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Install

[RE-wrenches] OFF-LINE: Re: Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems

2013-12-31 Thread Exeltech
Hey Mr. Ray ... Aren't you just a gluttony of good info! You're darned handy to have around. I wasn't aware of the Midnite unit. I'll have to scope it out. I'm concerned with Eric's mention of the bid requiring a 120AH battery (~1.5 kWh) .. and only 75W PV. Hopefully their loads are small,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems

2013-12-31 Thread Ray Walters
I'll chime back in on a few points: To MPPT or not: It all gets down to the budget: I find the tipping point to be around 250 to 400 watts. My small systems usually don't have MPPT, and as soon as I get into more than a pair of modules, I'm using the cheaper 60 cell modules with MPPT. I like

Re: [RE-wrenches] Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems

2013-12-31 Thread Exeltech
Eric .. Allan .. and all ... Allan wrote: > Re an MPPT controller: Nope, I wouldn't. First, this is equatorial west > Africa. > It's a tropical climate with hot modules most of the year. MPPT offers the > greatest benefit when the voltage delta-T is greatest: cold modules and empty > batteries.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems

2013-12-31 Thread Allan Sindelar
Dan and Eric, Now I'll respectfully argue with some of Dan's suggestions: Re an MPPT controller: Nope, I wouldn't. First, this is equatorial west Africa. It's a tropical climate with hot modules most of the year. MPPT offers the greatest benefit when the vo

Re: [RE-wrenches] Xantrex 6048 installation for house with existing automatic generator design assistance

2013-12-31 Thread Christopher Warfel
No, I monitored it, and verified by looking at the historic consumption. EVERYTHING is on its own circuit breaker. The owner lost his building in 911 and built this house (I believe) because of wanting something that he believed would give him the flexibility for many contingencies. On 12