Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Energy

2014-09-10 Thread frenergy
Hey Folks, I was authorized by Alan at Magnum to share this with the list. Hello Bill, Recently you wrote:How sad you'll have to be taking down the made in USA flag waving (good-bye) on your website. This is simply untrue. What is true is that Magnum is now a wholly owned

[RE-wrenches] Cooler Modules

2014-09-10 Thread Mark Frye
Folks, Two identical PV modules are mount in an identical fashion and exposed to identical irradiance. One module is open circuit. The other is connected to a load and producing power. Is there a difference in the temperature of the two modules? If so, which one is cooler? Mark Frye

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cooler Modules

2014-09-10 Thread Bill Hoffer
Mark Loaded modules will have hotter cells. I know this from searching for bad cells with a thermal camera. At open circuit I could not see a difference, but short circuit or loaded I could see 20 - 30 C increase in mismatched cells . Bill On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Mark Frye

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cooler Modules

2014-09-10 Thread William Miller
Colleagues: Thanks for the scintillating and relevant discussion. This brings up a question on my radar: Will unloaded modules fail sooner than loaded modules? Thanks again. Great Group! William Gradient Cap_mini Lic 773985 http://www.millersolar.com/ millersolar.com

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cooler Modules

2014-09-10 Thread Mac Lewis
Mark, This question depends on what where you draw your system boundary. If you are analyzing a module in its entirety, the module that is converting irradiance energy into electrical current will be cooler overall (less thermal energy) because less of that irradiance energy is turning into

Re: [RE-wrenches] Cooler Modules

2014-09-10 Thread Jerry Shafer
I have had a 30 k with 12 aurora magnatec inverters and every time I get a failure ( Magnatec with short the DC together) and you can feel the modules are hotter then ones under normal operation, have not compared to VOC Jerry On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Mark Frye ma...@berkeleysolar.com