Re: [RE-wrenches] SI/SB MicroGrid - Recovery From Low Battery Shut Off

2015-06-06 Thread Allan Sindelar
Years ago, when I was researching SB/SI microgrid solutions for a Ted Turner high-end off grid rich man's lodge, John Berdner (at that time the head of SMA-America) had made me the same recommendation: that a small amount of PV be wired as a DC charge-controller-based inp

Re: [RE-wrenches] SI/SB MicroGrid - Recovery From Low Battery Shut Off

2015-06-06 Thread Jerry Shafer
Gennys and battery settings are all good but if the battery died in the genny or its out of fuel then all bets are off so things happen more often then you might think. Backing up is insurance, like I said there are other options out there. Jerry On Jun 6, 2015 10:54 AM, "Jeff Clearwater" wrote:

Re: [RE-wrenches] SI/SB MicroGrid - Recovery From Low Battery Shut Off

2015-06-06 Thread Ray Walters
Actually its much more cost effective to use charge controllers than GT inverters for the PV input. Just price out a 4 Kw GT inverter of your choice compared to a Midnite Classic for instance. It's in the ball park of 25 cents/ watt savings, and that's not chump change. I only use AC coupling

Re: [RE-wrenches] SI/SB MicroGrid - Recovery From Low Battery Shut Off

2015-06-06 Thread Jeff Clearwater
Hi Mark Set up properly with the 3 protection thresholds plus generator auto start you shouldn't need any DC PV input. Seems a shame to spend the money on a charge control etc when SMA has carefully provided a built in solution. If you do decide to go that route you'll need to install a Shun

Re: [RE-wrenches] SI/SB MicroGrid - Recovery From Low Battery Shut Off

2015-06-06 Thread Jerry Shafer
This seams to be a very common ovetsite by some solar pro's you are correct if the system shuts down even in the case of an SI battery sensor or low voltage the entire system is down, if there is a genny on site this may prevent it if it has fuel. I see this issue and get asked a lot what can be do

Re: [RE-wrenches] SI/SB MicroGrid - Recovery From Low Battery Shut Off

2015-06-06 Thread Mac Lewis
Hi Mark, The Sunny Island has various battery protection modes and will shutdown based on user programmable state of charge levels. Level 2 battery protection will start the Sunny Island every 2 hours in an attempt to get charge into the batteries. You should set this level up at times when energ

[RE-wrenches] SI/SB MicroGrid - Recovery From Low Battery Shut Off

2015-06-06 Thread Mark Frye
Hi Guys, Just wondering about how a SI/SB microgrid works. If all the PV is connected to SB inverters, what happens if the loads manage to drain the batteries to their low voltage shutdown? Wouldn't the SB stop providing the AC sync so then the SB wouldn't have anything to sync to even if the