Whisker Labs <https://www.whiskerlabs.com/solutions.html> just announced a product that monitors individual loads / sources through digital disaggregation (like Sense) but using a sensor that adheres to the main panel, eliminating the need to remove the deadfront to attached CTs. Pretty crazy. Connectivity is through the existing network.
Other CT-based options beyond what's been mentioned include neurio <http://neur.io/> (existing network), the Locus LGate 101e <http://locusenergy.com/solutions/residential> (cellular or existing network), TED <http://www.theenergydetective.com/prohome> (existing network), and the Enphase Envoy-S <https://enphase.com/en-us/blog/enphase-brings-intelligent-control-energy-management-new-envoy-s> (which can monitor non-enphase systems and is cellular). There's another product just now coming to the US from Australia called CarbonTrack <http://www.carbontrack.com.au/> (cellular). Whole home + PV energy monitoring (CTs), zigbee / z-wave 2-way communications with smarthome devices, communicates with energy storage... basically an energy-focused smarthome hub. Lots going on in this space! - Andrew "Don't get me wrong: I love nuclear energy! It's just that I prefer fusion to fission. And it just so happens that there's an enormous fusion reactor safely banked a few million miles from us. It delivers more than we could ever use in just about 8 minutes. And it's wireless!" ~William McDonough On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Philip Boutelle <philboute...@gmail.com> wrote: > This product by Sense is similar to CURB (or eGauge > <http://www.egauge.net/>, or other multiple-CT devices), but you install > a single set of CTs on the main feeds (plus on on the solar if you have > it). The device then 'learns the electronic signature' of the loads in the > house to disaggregate what is being used. I haven't tried one yet. > https://sense.com/ > > I have previously installed a beta device from Verdegris, which does the > same thing (single CT set) but is geared for commercial customers, whereas > Sense is residential. > http://verdigris.co/ > > -Phil > > > -- > > *Phil Boutelle,* *PE, CEM* | Energy Engineer > philboute...@gmail.com | M (831) 359-5268 <%28831%29%20359-5268> > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 6:01 AM, William Dorsett <wmdors...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > >> There is a new one mentioned in SolarPro, from a company called CURB >> http://energycurb.com/) . CURB gives CT’s for eighteen different >> circuits so over time you can understand how each load is performing. One >> of our families had a broken pump shaft so it never registered that there >> was more water in the pressure tank, so it ran for weeks. The site mentions >> that they will be able to predict appliance failure from historical data. >> And it can monitor overall PV generation. It looks very promising though >> from the reviews it may not yet allow a download of historical data. It >> would be great if in addition to logging data, it would allow active >> management of interlocking relays to control demand charges. There is >> another product called Energy Sentry (http://energysentry.com/ ) , that >> allows you to prioritize your large loads so they aren’t allowed to all >> come on at the same time. As more utilities add Time of Use and demand >> charges this will be a really valuable piece of hardware. For installers >> this will become just another value added service. These two companies >> should merge. >> >> >> >> Bill Dorsett >> >> Manhattan, KS >> >> >> >> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On >> Behalf Of *Jerry Shafer >> *Sent:* Sunday, December 04, 2016 2:42 AM >> *To:* Peter Talmage; RE-wrenches >> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Whole house energy moniters >> >> >> >> Peter >> >> is this system CT based, can you turn around the CT's as when in most >> cases installation says to install directional and for solar they get >> installed backwards instead. >> Jerry >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Peter Talmage <ptalm...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Does anyone have experience with whole house energy monitors that work >> with interfaced PV arrays. It seems most just deal with the array output as >> a load . >> >> >> >> Thanks. 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