Re: [RE-wrenches] Breaker trip

2017-12-06 Thread Daniel Tittmann
looks like you have the answers here. When we have this issue the way we have fixed in the past is re route the battery positive from the CC to the battery terminal it self. This makes the inverter take the current form the batteries not from the CC capacitors. See Jay's note on battery health

Re: [RE-wrenches] Breaker trip

2017-12-06 Thread b...@midnitesolar.com
What can sometimes happen when the charge controller is wired electrically close to the inverter and long-ish battery cables are used from that connection point to the batteries is that surge currents from the inverter DC connection will be drawn from the charge controller and its batter

Re: [RE-wrenches] Breaker trip

2017-12-06 Thread William Miller
Mac: Is this breaker perchance a GFDI breaker? If so, the tripping could be indication of current flow in the bonding leg. This is a more nuanced problem. William Miller PS: I am not familiar with the Midnite charge controllers. I do know there are differences on how charge controller negati

Re: [RE-wrenches] Breaker trip

2017-12-06 Thread jay
HI Mac, This is a pretty common event. Yes the CC is dumping its caps into the load as the load is in a sense overloading the batteries. IE they are not able to deliver the amps and so the CC is helping. A larger breaker might help, or one technique I’ve used before ( advice from midnight) is

Re: [RE-wrenches] Breaker trip

2017-12-06 Thread RE Ellison
Maybe I making an assumption here that I shouldn’t but I hope you don’t mean that you had moved the breaker to the battery box on the inside? If you ever been in a dark room when one of those did it’s job it’s really impressive and you sure don’t want it in the battery box if it ever has to trip

Re: [RE-wrenches] Breaker trip

2017-12-06 Thread garyh
Mac, I had 2 midnite charge controllers trip breakers and eventually fail the charge controllers on a Magnum system, moved the battery breaker from the battery positive bus direct to the batteries and problem went away. On 2017-12-06 05:18, Mac Lewis wrote: Hello wrenches, I've got a mysteri

Re: [RE-wrenches] Breaker trip

2017-12-06 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi Mac, I have seen a single Magnum on starting a 1.5 HP motor draw over 300 amps 48 volts surge. In three years it has never failed to start that motor. I assume the charge controller is trying to use its capacitors to supply the current to the inverter, and the starting surge is tripping the br

Re: [RE-wrenches] Breaker trip

2017-12-06 Thread August Goers
Hi Mac, What size breaker is tripping? I assume you are running at 48 v? August On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:18 AM, Mac Lewis wrote: > Hello wrenches, > > I've got a mysterious breaker tripping that I need some ideas on how to > fix. > > Original system: > Array 6 x 235W Kyocera modules > 1 x Ou

Re: [RE-wrenches] Breaker trip

2017-12-06 Thread Mac Lewis
Yes, it's an air compressor, but it's tripping the charge controller breaker, not an AC breaker. On Dec 6, 2017 7:43 AM, "Daryl DeJoy" wrote: > Hi Mac, > Just off the top of my head I’d say you’ve likely got an air compressor > with a high locked rotor rating, at least with the info you’ve provi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Breaker trip

2017-12-06 Thread Daryl DeJoy
Hi Mac, Just off the top of my head I’d say you’ve likely got an air compressor with a high locked rotor rating, at least with the info you’ve provided. Daryl Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Mac Lewis Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2017 7:18 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Breaker t

[RE-wrenches] Breaker trip

2017-12-06 Thread Mac Lewis
Hello wrenches, I've got a mysterious breaker tripping that I need some ideas on how to fix. Original system: Array 6 x 235W Kyocera modules 1 x Outback FM60 charge controller 1 x Magnum MS 4024 PAE inverter Upgraded system we stacked a second inverter to accommodate an air compressor: Array 6 x