Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Frequency Shift

2020-06-12 Thread Jay
Hi Mark Is this off grid or on? Jay > On Jun 12, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Mark Frye wrote: > >  > I see. > > What you say about the frequency shift being slow makes me again doubt the > value of even using it in my application. > > I have a controller that can regulate the AC dump load. That

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Frequency Shift

2020-06-12 Thread Bradley Bassett
The slow response on the frequency shift is for the XW+ only, and mine is an early model with no firmware updates since new. The XW Pro's main difference from the XW+ besides UL1741-SA is a much faster processor. I've heard that the frequency shift works quite well now, especially with UL1741-SA

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Frequency Shift

2020-06-12 Thread Mark Frye
I see. What you say about the frequency shift being slow makes me again doubt the value of even using it in my application. I have a controller that can regulate the AC dump load. That same controller has a high limit switch which I could use to cut the AC feed to the GT inverters. But then

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Frequency Shift

2020-06-12 Thread Bradley Bassett
I have a relay on the XW+ Aux and also frequency shift which is usually slower, so the relay usually cuts out first. I also have a DC coupled array feeding the system. Brad On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 4:34 PM Mark Frye wrote: > Yes an elite group within an elite group. > > So the SB240 does not

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Frequency Shift

2020-06-12 Thread Mark Frye
Yes an elite group within an elite group. So the SB240 does not have frequency shift /wattage control. How are you implementing charge control in stand alone mode? On 6/12/2020 4:28 PM, Bradley Bassett wrote: Wow! Someone else with SMA SB240's, I have 12 of them that I've AC coupled to an

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Frequency Shift

2020-06-12 Thread Bradley Bassett
Wow! Someone else with SMA SB240's, I have 12 of them that I've AC coupled to an XW+5548. They are very solid performers. Brad AEE Solar On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 3:39 PM Mark Frye wrote: > Hello, > > I have a small array of 8 - SMA SB240 microinverters on the roof. Peak > power out of the array

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Frequency Shift

2020-06-12 Thread Mark Frye
Hello, I have a small array of 8 - SMA SB240 microinverters on the roof. Peak power out of the array has never exceeded 1800 W. I am adding a Magnum MS-PAE 4448 with a 315 AH flooded Lead Calcium battery bank. Cheers On 6/12/2020 12:31 PM, Chris Schaefer wrote: G'Day Mark, Which grid

Re: [RE-wrenches] White wire for DC- after ground fault breaker

2020-06-12 Thread Jerry Shafer
James, Wrenches Traditionally we oy use black + and white - for a grounded PC system enen with RSD, Systems that are not grounded are red + and black - which can be confusing. White is associated with neutral and connected to earth, black hot and red hot and we always use either USE-ll or PV wire,

Re: [RE-wrenches] White wire for DC- after ground fault breaker

2020-06-12 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
I take it he will not allow you to tape the wiring with white tape and put a warning sign on the JB? You have to do what he wants but I feel your pain. Good Luck! I would think a good electrician would measure first:) Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't"

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar tracker

2020-06-12 Thread scot.arey
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[RE-wrenches] White wire for DC- after ground fault breaker

2020-06-12 Thread James Jarvis
Hello Wrenches, I have an off-grid install where I was recently red-tagged by the state inspector. System is 24 volt with battery, Magnum inverters, some Magnum charge controllers, and a Morningstar charge controller. It is permitted under NEC 2017. One of the inspectors issues was that my DC-

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Frequency Shift

2020-06-12 Thread Chris Schaefer
G'Day Mark, Which grid tied inverter are you attempting to AC couple with. I apologize if you already called it out in the thread. Christopher On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 2:01 PM Jay wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Agreed that diversion is the way to go. > As 4v above absorb volts is completely unworkable.

[RE-wrenches] Solar tracker

2020-06-12 Thread Jay
Hi all I have a client who’s pretty talented. He wants to build his own dual axis solar tracker, in the 8-12 module range. I’m asking if anyone know of plans or where to get designs. I’m not asking for anyone to give free consultation help. Thanks Jay Peltz power.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Frequency Shift

2020-06-12 Thread Jay
Hi Mark, Agreed that diversion is the way to go. As 4v above absorb volts is completely unworkable. But I’m not sure that I agree about .5 hz will do anything. The new rule 21 inverters go off line at 64 hz. And there is a type of tapering based on hz shift, but it won’t shut off a new gt

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Frequency Shift

2020-06-12 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Also keep in mind that when AC coupling with legacy PV inverters without frequency-Watt capability, the battery based inverter will have reduced ability to regulate the battery charge. A modern GT inverter will give you faster and more accurate charging. The older GT's, may not be good enough

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Frequency Shift

2020-06-12 Thread Mark Frye
Thanks Jay, I talked again with Magnum. I have the latest Rev 6.1 MS-PAE 4448 so the exact implementation has changed from that described in AN002, 5/10. The current Rev. has changes designed to improve interaction with the GT inverters. I didn't really get to the bottom of that. But the

Re: [RE-wrenches] LI Batteries

2020-06-12 Thread la...@starlightsolar.com
Peter, This may be of interest to anyone looking into cheap Li battery products. For 7 years we have been dealing in Li batteries as a retailer, installer, distributor and importer. Not a single day goes by that I don’t receive 1 or more emails from a Li-ion battery company in China. I’m not

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum Frequency Shift

2020-06-12 Thread Jay
Hi Mark I found this which might be of help. https://www.magnum-dimensions.com/sites/default/files/MagArchive/AN-0002-AC-Coupling-Rev-5-10.pdf Jay Peltz power. > On Jun 12, 2020, at 6:59 AM, Mark Frye wrote: > > Looking for confirmation from Wrenches who know Magnum inverters: > > -

[RE-wrenches] Magnum Frequency Shift

2020-06-12 Thread Mark Frye
Looking for confirmation from Wrenches who know Magnum inverters: - MS-PAE -ME-RC - Frequency shift enabled (battery type "Custom") - AC coupled PV inverters w/o frequency shift capability Function: At Absorb voltage frequency shift is zero, at Absorb voltage + 6 V, shift is 0.5 Hz (in

Re: [RE-wrenches] LI Batteries

2020-06-12 Thread Will White
Zeke Yewdall who does a lot of off-grid installations and teaches at SEI has worked with LI batteries from a supplier who works with electric cars like this before so I reached out to him. I know he had a lot of problems with the BMS because it wasn't designed for use with solar and the support he