Bill,
Jay told me he is going to find out why Outback has not been moving forward with this. It is up to Outback to supply a Modbus or Canbus entry into the Outback network. They also have to supply some of their language to a battery company for implementation. I do not know Outback networking like I know Schneider. I am not a programmer. I have Outback clients also and have been slowly moving them to Schneider to allow a much easier life for them and myself when it is battery time. After I do the switch, I get all smiles from them. It is not that hard for some of my clients to make a closed loop system work. No Shunts, Bat Mon, or hard wiring. In some cases all they do is enter the time/date. Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't" http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ [1] e-mail offgridso...@sti.net [2] text 209 813 0060 On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 18:53:04 -0700, frenergy wrote: Dave, I missed your reference to OB/Simpliphi offering a "close the loop" to mean closed loop comm. They are working on it, I'm sure its a big job. Bill Feather River Solar Electric Bill Battagin, Owner 4291 Nelson St. Taylorsville, CA 95983 530.284.7849 CA Lic 874049 www.frenergy.net [3] On 3/22/2021 7:41 AM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar wrote: Bill, Unless I am mistaken the new Ampliphi 3.8 is still not closed loop with much other than Solarark. The old line of their batts, well has now been improved but not there yet until they get closed loop done! IMHO. Until Outback is capable of closed loop BMS into optics and their network I am going to stay with Schneider Discover AES and Fortress. It just is too easy and reliable to me than spend time on open loop power systems. After you try a closed loop system you ask yourself, what are setpoints? Why am I 25% faster charging with a genset. Wow true C1 charging! I respect your opinion but I was spoiled early on with closed loop. Have a good week! Bring on the rain! DAVE ANGELINI OFFGRID SOLAR "we go where powerlines don't" http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ [4] e-mail offgridso...@sti.net [5] text 209 813 0060 On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 21:00:05 -0700, frenergy [6] wrote: Dave, I just went through a thorough installation/programming regime for an Outback FlexPower2 married to 8, SimpliPhi 3.8's. Outback and SimpliPhi have spent a great deal of time developing setpoints for several of OB's products in a 23 detailed page integration guide. Bill Feather River Solar Electric Bill Battagin, Owner 4291 Nelson St. Taylorsville, CA 95983 530.284.7849 CA Lic 874049 www.frenergy.net [7] On 3/21/2021 8:53 AM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar wrote: Something is wrong with your programming of the monitor! Does the battery make give you parameters to program, they should! This is not normal with what I have seen. Reading state of charge on a monitor that does not have a BMS feeding Soc to it, is for indication only. It is a moveable feast and a PITA! I do not know why Outback has chosen to not partner with battery companies and close the loop for LFP like Schneider has? Anyone know why they will not do this? Lightning/gensets, and grid power can damage electronics and even though they may still seem to be working, they are damaged. Probably best to start logging in case there is something deeper! Good Luck! Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't" http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ [8] e-mail offgridso...@sti.net [9] text 209 813 0060 [10] Virus-free. www.avast.com [11] _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org [12] Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org [13] There are two list archives for searching. 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