Re: [RE-wrenches] Clipping of microinverter output

2016-10-04 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Amen to that. It doesn't make sense to spend inordinate time agonizing over the right ratio, and consumers are skeptical anyway. Unless it's way under or over 1.0 it isn't going to make a huge difference. I did a sensitivity analysis on this when PV cost twice as much, and I found it still wasn't

Re: [RE-wrenches] Clipping of microinverter output

2016-10-04 Thread cpickard aladdinsolar.com
We find it can be very difficult (time consuming) to explain this to some customers. So we try to keep possibility of clipping to a minimum, maybe with obvious clipping occurring a few days a year. If module tilt or orientation is less than ideal, clipping is more rare and we might be more

Re: [RE-wrenches] Clipping of microinverter output

2016-10-04 Thread Will White
Mike, Have you read the Enphase white paper on module to inverter size? It goes into good detail on why they do it. http://www2.enphase.com/global/files/Enphase_White_Paper_Module_Rightsizing.pdf Thanks, Will -- *Will White* Curriculum Developer e: w...@solarenergy.org w:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Clipping of microinverter output

2016-10-04 Thread Jason Szumlanski
This has been addressed several times on the list (check the archives). But the best source on this still in my opinion is Enphase's Module Right-Sizing white paper. There are regional variations that make a big difference. It's not so much about the inverter efficiency. It's about how much extra

[RE-wrenches] Clipping of microinverter output

2016-10-03 Thread Mike Kocsmiersky
Recently I've been concerned about power clipping of micro inverters and the design ratio of PV STC array size to inverter. If I have a 300W module going into a 250W micro inverter, there will be times when the potential power output is clipped because the micro inverter can't handle all the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Clipping

2013-03-25 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Yes, Southwest Florida. You're right about the availability of modules. People look at me like I have three heads when I tell them a 185W and a 250W module are about the same price, but that's the world we're living in. We always need to consider price efficiency in addition the the electrical and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Clipping

2013-03-22 Thread Nick Soleil
Hi Jesse and Wrenches, One thing that should be understood about the production readings from a DC optimizer system is that the module level readings are in DC. That is the production before being converted to AC, and does not account for the losses of the inverter. It isn't really an apples to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Clipping

2013-03-22 Thread Jesse Dahl
Understood. I guess the point/question was, a 250W module with a 215W micro would flat top a heck of a lot of power where I live during the 6 months of winter we have. I've sized my system to account for increased production during this time. I guess it comes down to sizing. I find it hard to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Clipping

2013-03-22 Thread Jason Szumlanski
We now have 230W, 235W, 240W, 245W, and 250W modules on Enphase M215's in the field. Initial anecdotal evidence shows that the 250W modules are doing better in our area, even when the cost comparison is taken into account (normalized for $/watt). I don't have a full year of data yet, but I plan to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Clipping

2013-03-22 Thread Jesse Dahl
Interesting. Jason you're in FLA right? I'd like to hear from a northern installer who's put in a similar group of enphase. That's exactly the type of info I'm looking for. Like you mention, this might all be a waste if time when you consider module price. I'm having a hard time getting