[RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-06 Thread jay peltz
I just wanted to follow up on one thing about the kohler DC gensets. I talked to my genny buddy about the Kohler and he said: The voltages are adjustable. On the 24v unit, from 24 to 33v. It also tapers the current down to around 40 amps, from a peak of 222. thanks, jay peltz power

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-06 Thread bob ellison
...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of jay peltz Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 8:20 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] DC generators I just wanted to follow up on one thing about the kohler DC gensets. I talked to my genny buddy about the Kohler

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-06 Thread Ray Walters
I never recommend trying to fully charge with a generator anyway: its too fuel inefficient. A good 4 hour bulk charge from 50% back to 80% SOC, and then hope the sun shines again. I usually set the voltage on the high side (they usually run the it in the winter), and program the run time to

[RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread jay peltz
HI All, I know many of you like this concept. I was just made aware of a new product from Kohler. Kohler 6vsg. Natural gas or propane, 24, 36,48v dc only looks pretty good, I understand it was made for the telecom industry. And while Im not normally on board with the DC genset idea, that i

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Allan Sindelar
Jay, If this is the unit I think it it, it has been discussed and rejected on this list in previous threads. It has been around for years, although the model appears to have been upgraded, as it's now variable speed 2,300-2,900 rpm. The primary issue, if I

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Carl Adams
Very interesting Jay, A customer just asked me two days ago, if it would be possible to install a DC Generator to feed his six SunnyBoy 6000s at night. He was thinking of a water cooled genny from which he could harvest heat while also providing power to the inverters. He said he thought the

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Dan Fink
Run the 54vdc generator output through a Midnite Classic, Outback FX, etc? Dan Fink, Executive Director; Otherpower Buckville Energy Consulting Buckville Publications LLC NABCEP / IREC accredited Continuing Education Providers 970.672.4342 On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Allan Sindelar

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Allan Sindelar
Rated 111A at 54 VDC; 222A at 27 VDC. I think that's too much current for any charge controller. So close and yet so far... Allan Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic

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2013-03-05 Thread Me
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Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Kent Osterberg
Polar Power makes a couple generators with similar features: http://www.polardcmarine.com/polarpower/products/dc-generators/8220d-950p/ http://www.polardcmarine.com/polarpower/products/dc-generators/8220k-972/ I haven't check to see if the output voltage is adjustable, or suitable for charging

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
Jay, Two big issues I have with these is no current regulation and a fixed, 2.25V per cell output voltage. If a flooded battery bank is at a low SoC, the over current can cause damage. For AGM's this would be fine, though. The low charge voltage means very long charge time and wasted fuel.

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread James Jarvis
The Polar Power units have variable output charging. Lots more smarts than just float charge. Very good integrated automatic generator starting and stopping. Our customers haven't been very impressed with the super capacitor for starting. -James Jarvis APRS World, LLC On 03/05/2013 11:29 AM,

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC generators

2013-03-05 Thread Chris Mason
I think that's too much current for any charge controller. Why use a charge controller? Surely the idea is to provide a bulk charge facility for emergency where the solar resource is not sufficient. Couldn't you use start/stop control to get the batteries to, say, 80% charge then shut it down? A